From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 8 18:39:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1509E03780 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 18:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt.xtaz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x242.google.com (mail-wm0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DD5265D7C for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 18:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt.xtaz@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x242.google.com with SMTP id x17so2266406wmd.5 for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:39:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Qb/g+D+D+4TBo5NBubWB2hVZqQ3NQuyhVSFOh9Pwo8U=; b=t0KoNZK5F10R82bfbmlY5A+T7kx6+Kx8yz0HWIidS9Sg0gniUW2G1phfhr/QNhmnLn 1/0e6nDAz7gjzpBmCMdoGPunpiZrH23/cMbf9WwX6rkaBHIFCmWvaZNbJhSM0uVjgymI irElICZzU5QV6L4aOmzuDwGQKzsexIZhCxJwyMrn4Dln6AryymW8zw8jB2aOL+GYS4xz +krA+pyHjMkD+xApE7oyBd1/IbqCJYn5XEeqYmh6SwBVGZM1pk8tRXK2taPWe0CiYu3C iNBS4vIB2ZE09UNlJPfzRyVFst5MU9R6j2kSty0ln2zyxMmQwIg5RrA7nj82IRvXd8Gg gNAg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Qb/g+D+D+4TBo5NBubWB2hVZqQ3NQuyhVSFOh9Pwo8U=; b=KjCd2ps4P9WClaRNvNUTQvxMe+SD50kjCOjNwrW74emXugh2bMOLBF/4UV2nWC1aht hUDF3fGGbpHWQhRcbEz2USPjxFxJKS8/tcLCrlpGzhrafu5gQORuFSv9k4+pMb2tYfJY rvxNxnyXG28PN4gz3rzIHaKWa9KarDb16OALWl8AH6Fuma5uKm87BQmK//hbSi2FeBUZ NX3DgrijJ/JjiUVOWsdxV9ORHiCt7tMO9xVrHrwK/9HNZNMAQN6qwJcfFZ12RjEH42DG pw/M7oOMTcCNEpa6c4/eEKV3YpsMEBSPCo+0TXXZYz/pzT/Ppu2/jCe8ed96XF1q8CtR PAkw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUiYoxN49vIOVT4ojpxcw2/dE3uzlcLnSsAOc3j3VPWs9TLVh4QT X7ai5T9kL/DffQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDAm2/eTP/Ve4s0D15DTU9Jk3ATCjQFFkBk2CD9itZEq5IRu2EnaFf8f10N81XmWh1sNuRtmA== X-Received: by 10.28.211.77 with SMTP id k74mr2383513wmg.147.1504895994760; Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tao.xtaz.uk. [2001:8b0:fe33::10]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s126sm2906330wmd.46.2017.09.08.11.39.53 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 19:39:52 +0100 From: Matt Smith To: Warren Block Cc: Polytropon , Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Questions , Ernie Luzar Subject: Re: Restoring sc console look and feel with vt Message-ID: <20170908183952.GA82102@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Matt Smith , Warren Block , Polytropon , Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Questions , Ernie Luzar References: <20170905151245.f592508c.freebsd@edvax.de> <59AEAD20.8050006@gmail.com> <20170905201840.ae6b53ee.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170905204920.2b709f7a.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2017 18:39:56 -0000 On Sep 08 11:43, Warren Block wrote: >On Tue, 5 Sep 2017, Polytropon wrote: > >>>For the former, removing the previous advice from loader.conf would be the >>>first step. Then you should be able to find an acceptable setting >>>experimenting with vidcontrol eg resolution/fonts. >> >>With vidcontrol, I only get error messages. I think it ie tied >>to sc? I also have no idea what font names to try... > >Yes, it depends on VESA support by the video card. > >Instead, try the "gop" command in the loader to list and set modes. It seems a shame that there are so many different ways of setting the modes or resolutions. I have been using FreeBSD for 20 years and I don't even really understand how we should be doing this. I understand that vt is new but we should be presenting a single way of configuring it correctly to our new users. Currently it leads to confusion and inconsistency. -- Matt