From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 2 23:41:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E730D106564A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 23:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AE48FC16 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 23:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 7B3D18C065; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:24:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:24:17 -0600 To: obrien@freebsd.org, "M. Warner Losh" , arch@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20090202232417.GB6767@soaustin.net> References: <200901130653.n0D6rrNX092719@svn.freebsd.org> <20090130015518.GA20404@hades.panopticon> <20090130.085130.-4349483.imp@bsdimp.com> <20090130.093052.-2022808221.imp@bsdimp.com> <20090202223141.GB76833@dragon.NUXI.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090202223141.GB76833@dragon.NUXI.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Subject: Re: svn commit: r187132 - head/usr.bin/make X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:41:59 -0000 Why are you being so obstinate about this? Hundreds of thousands of package builds have been done with make(1) before your "fix". Now there are gratuitous differences in the build output. Why? This is an immense POLA violation -- which is something you're very quick to beat other people over the head with. The fact that it was done this way in the historical past is irrelevant. The fact that other OSes may or may not do it this way is irrelevant. The fact that FreeBSD has done it the way that it has for -- what, 10 years -- *is* relevant, and is the *only* thing that is relevant. There are plenty of other _real_ problems in FreeBSD (e.g. ancient PRs assigned to committers that are long-undealt-with). Rather than arguing over a point you've already lost, why not work on those instead? mcl