From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 14:23:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7600216A4CE for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp4.server.rpi.edu (smtp4.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34C843D53 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:23:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp4.server.rpi.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i07MNVMr014803; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:23:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <79B4EAB03B5E4649A740A8C1452F606435AF1B@y6001a.umb.corp.umb.com> <3FFAF1D4.4000709@iconoplex.co.uk> <3FFB4499.3050301@iconoplex.co.uk> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:23:30 -0500 To: Paul Robinson From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is FreeBSD going? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 22:23:39 -0000 At 12:42 PM +0100 1/7/04, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: >Paul Robinson writes: > > If 5.3, when it arrives, is genuinely production ready, trust > > me, the drinks are on me - I will do my absolute best to get > > to the next BSDcon and get everybody drunk on an expense > > account. If it isn't, well, I'll just have to whisper > > "I told you so" quietly somewhere. > >I am currently working for an ISP whose infrastructure is >based 75% on FreeBSD 5.1. ... > >I am about to start in a new job... I asked them what it >was like to develop on -CURRENT compared to -STABLE. Their >answer: "a relief". I would add that I've been running almost exclusively on 5.x for over a year now (except for one machine which I have not rebooted in over a year...). There have been some *very* painful transitions at various times, but once I get past the transitions the system has been quite stable. (fwiw, in my case, I am only running on desktop systems). So, once we stop making major API/ABI changes and the branch is truly stable (with a 6.x branch for new cutting-edge developments), I personally am quite confident that 5.x will be a stable, production-quality system. And there are a number of features in 5.x that I think are tremendous advantages -- especially for boxes in a production setting. My guess is you're going to have a large bar tab at the next BSDcon... Certainly I hope so! -- Garance Alistair Drosehn =3D gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu