From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Feb 2 10:42:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16614 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:42:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16599 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:42:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14839; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:41:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr05.primenet.com(206.165.6.205) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd014760; Tue Feb 2 11:41:43 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06274; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:41:41 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199902021841.LAA06274@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Lets Endorse KDE Was: some slashdot thread To: wghicks@bellsouth.net (W Gerald Hicks) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:41:41 +0000 (GMT) Cc: jcwells@u.washington.edu, wghicks@bellsouth.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990202001357R.wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net> from "W Gerald Hicks" at Feb 2, 99 00:13:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The good new is, with a bit of care and handholding, even a very new > user can try each of these and decide for themselves. That's the > magic of the ports subsystem. Actually, the magic is ">*PAF!*< You have a command line!". It is very easily defensible that people who don't like GUI based login, etc. (whatever desktop, WM, etc. is picked) can disable the thing, or even turn off the (default on) install of the thing. The converse is not true. At a bare minimum, there should be a "FreeBSD Desktop Express Install" as one of the installation options. Dare I say that it should include a DHCP client that defaults it to a random address on the 10 net if it doesn't get a response, and a GUI TCP settings configurator for when neither of those work... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message