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Date:      Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:09:14 -0700
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Arthur Mesh <arthurmesh@gmail.com>, secteam@freebsd.org, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: random(4) plugin infrastructure for mulitple RNG in a modular fashion
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In-Reply-To: <201308081023.53040.jhb@freebsd.org>
References:  <20130807182858.GA79286@dragon.NUXI.org> <20130807192736.GA7099@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CAGE5yCq%2Bs6kYtVYyxi27RAqPmvpV42nNNykm2%2B2x1EJGCihYXw@mail.gmail.com> <201308081023.53040.jhb@freebsd.org>

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On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:23 AM, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:20:29 pm Peter Wemm wrote:
[..]
> The counter to this is that in the recent past, any suggestion to add anything
> to DEFAULTS was met with "that's the wrong way".  In actual fact, changes
> to GENERIC happen quite often, and we often break older kernel configs from
> older branches (ATA_CAM is no longer in 10 for example).  I'm not sure I buy
> the argument that we can never break kernel configs from older branches.

I was talking about changes that break configs without detection.
ATA_CAM is different.  If the kernel fails to configure or compile,
you fix it and repeat.

The original patch meant your working kernel config built/installed
without the slightest hint that something was wrong until it was a
brick after boot.  That's what I was taking issue with.

-- 
Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV
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