From owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Thu Jan 30 20:22:53 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C621FD736; Thu, 30 Jan 2020 20:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mail.oetec.com (mail.oetec.com [108.160.241.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.oetec.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 487sH02JC8z4bx9; Thu, 30 Jan 2020 20:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) X-Spam-Status: No X-oetec-MailScanner-From: dclarke@blastwave.org X-oetec-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.199, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.10, DKIM_VALID -0.10, DKIM_VALID_AU -0.10, DKIM_VALID_EF -0.10, URIBL_BLOCKED 0.00) X-oetec-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-oetec-MailScanner-ID: 00UKMfOg019894 X-oetec-MailScanner-Information: Please contact oetec for more information Received: from [172.16.35.3] (CPEf81d0f84cb23-CMf81d0f84cb20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.253.169.68]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.oetec.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-8) with ESMTPSA id 00UKMfOg019894 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 30 Jan 2020 15:22:42 -0500 Subject: Re: arm64 as Tier 1 for FreeBSD 13 To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, FreeBSD PowerPC ML References: <17938.1575444597@critter.freebsd.dk> <20191204092402.GA82492@fuz.su> <78425.1580332298@critter.freebsd.dk> <20200129222907.3ccaf4c23fe8509e3f9cdfe4@bidouilliste.net> <84926.1580333803@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 15:22:41 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:72.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/72.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 487sH02JC8z4bx9 X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.46 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[blastwave.org:s=default]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.984,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(0.50)[asn: 812(2.58), country: CA(-0.09)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.973,0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[blastwave.org:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[blastwave.org,quarantine]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[68.169.253.99.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:812, ipnet:108.160.240.0/20, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 20:22:53 -0000 On 2020-01-30 08:07, Bob Bishop wrote: > Hi, > >> On 29 Jan 2020, at 21:36, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> >> -------- >> In message <20200129222907.3ccaf4c23fe8509e3f9cdfe4@bidouilliste.net>, Emmanuel Vadot writes: >> >>>> RPi's are a LOT easier to get hold of for hackers and in particular >>>> for educators. Well popular is a factor I guess. The noisey masses. However the most powerful and most common RISC platform on the planet Earth is the IBM POWER9 and that is where FreeBSD server style OS should work flawlessly. With NVidia driver support for CUDA applications. Any other considerations for a server style OS would be merely giving the masses a hug for no great benefit in functionality. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional