From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 25 19:26:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37ECB1065670 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mj@feral.com) Received: from ns1.feral.com (ns1.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3818FC0A for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:26:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.221.2] (remotevpn [192.168.221.2]) by ns1.feral.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p1PJDqt5000256 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:13:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mj@feral.com) Message-ID: <4D67FF70.3000704@feral.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:13:52 -0800 From: Matthew Jacob Organization: Feral Software User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <8CDA335A0CABF7E-338-9FC4@web-mmc-d05.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CDA335A0CABF7E-338-9FC4@web-mmc-d05.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (ns1.feral.com [192.168.221.1]); Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:13:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: quotas an essential feature? (was: svn commit: r218953 - stable/8/usr.sbin/sysinstall) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:26:30 -0000 Actually, GENERIC is there to provide the most features for the most uses. A large percentage of users don't config new kernels, and FreeBSD has not elected the approach Digital Unix (aka "DUH") took about installs which required a reconfig as one of the last steps of an installation. I can't speak to your "required to boot" case- not sure what you're referring to. I also have been sometimes unhappy about things that can't be added for booting, but that's really more of a "need a driver disk or options disk" kind of case that was more during the FreeBSD delivered on floppy which is long ago and far away and a country now pushing up daisies. On 2/25/2011 11:02 AM, dieterbsd@engineer.com wrote: >> I promise to enable UFS quotas in GENERIC in one week unless anybody > objects >> now. > > Huh? I thought GENERIC was supposed to include everything you needed to > boot, not every possible feature that someone might desire? > > But requests to include things required to boot get rejected and > nonessential features like quotas get added. WTF? > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >