From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 22 14:26:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3308E16A41F for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:26:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phelms1@mindspring.com) Received: from pop03.mail.atl.earthlink.net (pop03.mail.atl.earthlink.net [207.69.200.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A834743D49 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:26:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phelms1@mindspring.com) Received: from dialup-4.227.193.48.dial1.denver1.level3.net ([4.227.193.48] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by pop03.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1E7DFy-0004Af-00; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:26:35 -0400 Message-ID: <4309E0A1.3090806@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:26:41 -0600 From: Phil Helms User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian G References: <20050822054110.GC6627@osiris.chen.org.nz> <430989AB.7090200@nefli.nl> <4309D516.6060004@mindspring.com> <4309DFF3.4060702@iang.org> In-Reply-To: <4309DFF3.4060702@iang.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0534-0, 08/22/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Starting with freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: phelms1@mindspring.com List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:26:50 -0000 Thanks for the information. Your answer raises a concern. Once Java is ported to FreeBSD, what's to prevent it falling behind, like on Apple's OS? Ian G wrote: > Phil Helms wrote: > >> If it's Sun's fault, why does Linux have Java? > > > More resources. The 'blackdown' group has enough > resources (including help from companies that sell > Linux) to run through the very very big and complex > suite of tests that Sun impose on any Java distro. > There appears to be more work in getting through > the tests and getting it formally accepted by Sun > than there is in just porting the product, so Java > is really only pushed by Sun on Linux, Microsoft. > > It's all part of the "write once, run anywhere" > policy which basically backfires on them. You'll > notice that Apple has a lot of trouble keeping up > as well, and even the Solaris platform lags at times. > > iang > > -- Phil Helms phelms1@mindspring.com