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Date:      Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:48:22 +0100
From:      se@freebsd.org (Stefan Esser)
To:        craig@progroup.com (Craig Shaver)
Cc:        se@freebsd.org (Stefan Esser), scsi@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ncr in stable ... 875
Message-ID:  <19970211214822.TV64263@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de>
In-Reply-To: <3300D2D9.3F54BC7E@progroup.com>; from Craig Shaver on Feb 11, 1997 12:13:13 -0800
References:  <199702072134.NAA29174@vader.cs.berkeley.edu> <199702101012.TAA06339@madoka.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> <32FF4A6C.2781E494@progroup.com> <19970211183534.ZZ52644@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> <3300BE5B.59E2B600@progroup.com> <19970211203913.GS05631@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> <3300D2D9.3F54BC7E@progroup.com>

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On Feb 11, craig@progroup.com (Craig Shaver) wrote:
> > You may of course try the Tekram driver. I'd like
> > to know how well it works for you. (If you can run
> > some benchmarks, I'd love to see the results.)
> 
> I am running the Tekram now, on a 2.1.5R with the Tekram
> patches, and a minor patch from you.  Would you like me
> to run bonnie on it?  I have never run bonnie, but can
> give it a try.

Well, it's only really useful, if you are willing to
run the benchmark with both drivers ...

> > There might be some minor problems with the Tekram
> > driver, which I'd have to check in the sources.
> 
> Ouch!  Well I am grateful to the Tekram people for even 
> putting a FreeBSD driver up in the first place.  Even if 
> your code is better, I would still want to encourage their
> future support of FreeBSD.

Sure!

I really appreciate, that a company cares for the free
Unix market, and understands, that even if there are many
more Win-3.1 or Win-95 systems than BSD or Linux, most of 
them will never see a SCSI device from close distance :)

> > No, the controller will be fully recognized, but
> > many of the new features of the 53c875 will not
> > be taken advantage of. (There is no support for
> > loading the NCR code into the 875's 4KB SRAM, for
> > example, or no negotiation of Ultra-SCSI transfer
> > rates.)
> 
> Ok, I gather that it support UW and W devices, but
> will not negotiate the setup.  Sounds like it should
> work out of the box for me.

I wanted the GENERIC FreeBSD kernel to support all
NCR 53c8xx based SCSI cards at least to the degree
required to complete a kernel install. And this has
been the case for many months, now.

> > I wanted to clean up some of the code before the
> > 20MHz speed is enabled, but was held back by some
> > other (higher priority) tasks ...
> 
> Is it enabled by default?  Will regular wide drives
> like the Q Atlas work?  I want to use it with a 2G
> seagate UW, and 2 4G Atlas drives.  They all work now.

The driver will only support 10MHz WIDE transfers,
i.e. 20MB/s. I could provide you with diffs that 
make the driver negotiate 20MHz speed, but have not
even tested them myself ...

I have half-way completed the cleanup of the code,
that deals with negotiation values. It will use 
"abstract" variables, instead of "register bits".

Regards, STefan



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