Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 12:35:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Doug Denault <doug@safeport.com> To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> Cc: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: diff is a little diff -- erent Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.2008261223340.73252@bucksport.safeport.com> In-Reply-To: <CAOgwaMv4ofq6oPbmN9RznPquPn-v3sKzbxkgLaRht1RxdcEbpw@mail.gmail.com> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.2008260122071.73252@bucksport.safeport.com> <20200826094948.333c67b0.freebsd@edvax.de> <alpine.BSF.2.00.2008261131320.73252@bucksport.safeport.com> <CAOgwaMv4ofq6oPbmN9RznPquPn-v3sKzbxkgLaRht1RxdcEbpw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 6:46 PM Doug Denault <doug@safeport.com> wrote: > On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 01:30:38 -0400 (EDT), Doug Denault wrote: > >> I do wonder why. Who is going to go to the effort to build/install > "base" > >> commands as various options are removed/changed? I can't wait to see > what > >> happens to cp, grep, find, and awk. > > > > If I remember correctly, grep already is BSD grep (with GNU grep > > being available via ports collection), and the same for awk (and > > gawk respectively). In most cases, the base commands implement > > the set of standard features, while the GNU commands have certain > > GNU extensions added which the standard does not require or even > > specify. This, and the licensing terms (BDSL / GPL) that apply. > > > Thanks, a perfectly reasonable response to my less than reasonable post. > Lost in my histrionics was my question. We have morphed from, "I will not > stop you from doing something stupid ..." to We are going to take away > some options that have been there for 25 years (that I know of) because > "?-----?". Having the blank filled in is what I was going for. > > After all these years I do not know which of the scores of commands I use > are GNU versus BCD. The man pages probably says but I have enough trouble > remembering all the options in ls, find, and awk that I use, much less > are they GNU or not. As written in /usr/src, the change seems rather > arbitrary. My 'real' question: is there a reason to make this change? > License of GNU software is GPL which is NOT a commercially usable license . > > For that reason , FreeBSD is clearing out the GNU software from its base system by > replacing them with BSD licensed similar software developed by FreeBSD specialist > volunteers without implementing unnecessary GNU extensions . An unnecessary option is anything you are not using. > To support FreeBSD user's operations using GNU software , such software parts are moved > into ports which do not affect the license of base system usage . Okay thanks for the explaination. Unless the lawyers tell you differently I doubt I have been breaking the law for the past 25 years. If so every linux in the world can be sued. There's a class action for you :) It was/is my understanding this applies to including such software in an appliance, say Xbox or whatever. I thought the licence difference dealt more with the BSD license allowing proprietary software to be included in said appliance. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277
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