From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat May 18 09:10:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD40415AD0D0 for ; Sat, 18 May 2019 09:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-f170.google.com (mail-oi1-f170.google.com [209.85.167.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D48D3707A7 for ; Sat, 18 May 2019 09:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-f170.google.com with SMTP id w144so6817754oie.12 for ; Sat, 18 May 2019 02:10:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=F2xq4u/vD59Ktr03uqw08Eut/8Rsy8csXGsNvVABmsY=; b=hjyJzkzhVwUt08bQWO9uZiGniN+tjdORGMHxY6Nsn2NG+KaOa3FrtOCEEq3qzDTQOn Y9EFVztgw9ymQFqNRU8Bu2bv6F1VSEazFvcFQA0cBK2aU2dzFQDg2Kg3/z37Bljr1tCo ULJXJFJH6qiPeOoS1VfYskFMuRF/hDfoHaXBJPCHOIaGiFujsJAVNshDC0W95LCEYch1 ci+GsmifBA2D9heT2BSdSN4gdRW95AnJHG8DUztTG9P3JHTc73tpa4KTKbB2L8t2SSjo gje18IjCtOv884fUQQlKBVBqOgvWZEBtpBt5/E9cocs3p7TDuMOSDxvitHAAqulbQTBB IrgA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX+IDspOBCvOiyVqfVYemdMykxWGpX4v33GwOvnXuKO3IyYD1IW EGtA/ekoQLzpJ0f6M/Zx4P29D0n5sLcvsHe1XRM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy67hmNuZxCueQVAgjkTokfHO7yxJSk+WfdSxuiVQJv7I2hphoqEi4q4GyCWadAsBzV+yDQ+jGRzvpZFXDveu0= X-Received: by 2002:aca:48d8:: with SMTP id v207mr16667624oia.126.1558169183726; Sat, 18 May 2019 01:46:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <868svf6r05.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> In-Reply-To: From: Igor Mozolevsky Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 09:45:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Core Team Response to Controversial Social Media Posts To: v@researchbsd.org Cc: freebsd-current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D48D3707A7 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mozolevsky@gmail.com designates 209.85.167.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mozolevsky@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.20 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hybrid-lab.co.uk]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[170.167.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.915,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; IP_SCORE(-1.28)[ip: (-0.55), ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.51), asn: 15169(-2.27), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 09:10:16 -0000 On Sat, 18 May 2019 at 00:10, wrote: > > Igor et al, > > Instead of debating definitions of hate speech, free speech, and trying to discover intent, I suggest we focus on right relationships. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A14THPoc4-4 This is a typical example of reframing a problem in one side's favourable terms. Freedom of expression is a fundamental freedom as recognised by the United Nations, and is guaranteed by the highest courts of any civilised society. Attacking one's freedom of expression under whatever auspices makes one an EXCEPTIONALLY terrible person that should go and re-thing their life purpose! End of discussion. -- Igor M.