From owner-freebsd-current Mon Dec 11 3:59:16 2000 From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 03:59:12 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E888537B737 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:58:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589966E2E34 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (Ipittythefoolthattrustsident@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA55942; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:31:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBB8VXN89914; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:31:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:31:33 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Nate Williams Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation Message-ID: <20001211003133.B89853@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <14899.43958.622675.847234@guru.mired.org> <20001210120840.C38697@vger.bsdhome.com> <14899.47196.795281.662619@zircon.seattle.wa.us> <14899.49294.958909.82912@guru.mired.org> <14899.62738.768609.598990@nomad.yogotech.com> <14899.62189.243395.903919@nomad.yogotech.com> <14900.2598.958785.326648@guru.mired.org> <14900.19591.200496.869754@nomad.yogotech.com> <14900.21804.426787.246572@guru.mired.org> <14900.23606.685940.408212@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <14900.23606.685940.408212@nomad.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 09:46:46PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: obrien@NUXI.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 09:46:46PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote: > Fixing broken things is a good thing. Your argument about moving it > from /usr/local to show how broken is a good test procedure, but turning > it into policy is something completely different. Yes changing the policy is something different. IMHO, it will never been done -- way too much momentum behind it now. BUT, I wish people would understand the basic premise and stop bringing up what this and that used to 10 years ago. People doing that are *missing* the issue. NetBSD got it right. BSDi(BSD/OS) got it right. > I think the 'tradition' of FreeBSD installing packages in /usr/local is > enough to leave things the way they are, especially since non-broken > packages allow you to install it somewhere else on *your* system. Packages (ie, those Satoshi builds) no. Building the port yourself, yes. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message