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Date:      Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:20:35 +0100
From:      Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>
To:        Artem Belevich <art@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org>, "Eugene M. Zheganin" <emz@norma.perm.ru>, freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, mm@freebsd.org, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>
Subject:   Re: zfs arc and amount of wired memory
Message-ID:  <4F331F63.60707@quip.cz>
In-Reply-To: <CAFqOu6jdHXs02918q28RUo_KSyhW2OdHkLyerM4fZVstR1MCEA@mail.gmail.com>
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Artem Belevich wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Jeremy Chadwick
> <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>  wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 01:11:36AM +0100, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
> ...
>>> ARC Size:
>>>           Current Size:             1769 MB (arcsize)
>>>           Target Size (Adaptive):   512 MB (c)
>>>           Min Size (Hard Limit):    512 MB (zfs_arc_min)
>>>           Max Size (Hard Limit):    3584 MB (zfs_arc_max)
>>>
>>> The target size is going down to the min size and after few more
>>> days, the system is so slow, that I must reboot the machine. Then it
>>> is running fine for about 107 days and then it all repeat again.
>>>
>>> You can see more on MRTG graphs
>>> http://freebsd.quip.cz/ext/2012/2012-02-08-kiwi-mrtg-12-15/
>>> You can see links to other useful informations on top of the page
>>> (arc_summary, top, dmesg, fs usage, loader.conf)
>>>
>>> There you can see nightly backups (higher CPU load started at
>>> 01:13), otherwise the machine is idle.
>>>
>>> It coresponds with ARC target size lowering in last 5 days
>>> http://freebsd.quip.cz/ext/2012/2012-02-08-kiwi-mrtg-12-15/local_zfs_arcstats_size.html
>>>
>>> And with ARC metadata cache overflowing the limit in last 5 days
>>> http://freebsd.quip.cz/ext/2012/2012-02-08-kiwi-mrtg-12-15/local_zfs_vfs_meta.html
>>>
>>> I don't know what's going on and I don't know if it is something
>>> know / fixed in newer releases. We are running a few more ZFS
>>> systems on 8.2 without this issue. But those systems are in
>>> different roles.
>>
>> This sounds like the... damn, what is it called... some kind of internal
>> "counter" or "ticks" thing within the ZFS code that was discovered to
>> only begin happening after a certain period of time (which correlated to
>> some number of days, possibly 107).  I'm sorry that I can't be more
>> specific, but it's been discussed heavily on the lists in the past, and
>> fixes for all of that were committed to RELENG_8.

Thank you for your quick response. I am glad that it is fixed in 8.x. So 
I will upgrade this last old machine in few weeks. :)

>>  I wish I could
>> remember the name of the function or macro or variable name it pertained
>> to, something like LTHAW or TLOCK or something like that.  I would say
>> "I don't know why I can't remember", but I do know why I can't remember:
>> because I gave up trying to track all of these problems.
>>
>> Does someone else remember this issue?  CC'ing Martin who might remember
>> for certain.
>
> It's LBOLT. :-)
>
> And there was more than one related integer overflow. One of them
> manifested itself as L2ARC feeding thread hogging CPU time after about
> a month of uptime. Another one caused issue with ARC reclaim after 107
> days. See more details in this thread:
>
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2011-May/011584.html

Yes, it is exactly this problem. Thank you for the link to this thread. 
I am subscribed to freebsd-fs@ and I am reading it almost daily, but I 
missed this one!

Thanks to both of you!

Miroslav Lachman



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