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From: Heikki Suonsivu <hsu@cs.hut.fi>
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To: Christoph Kukulies <kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de>
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In-Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies's message of 10 Mar 1995 10:13:19 +0200
Subject: Re: BSD Consortium? (where is the original?)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Otaniemi, Finland
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   Could someone please repost the original "BSD Consortium" 
   message? It got lost to me.

The thread started from this one:

 > From hsu@cs.hut.fi Sat Mar 11 00:27:05 1995
 > Path: elvis.clinet.fi!elvis.clinet.fi!not-for-mail
 > From: Heikki Suonsivu <hsu@cs.hut.fi>
 > Newsgroups: clinet.list.freebsd-hackers
 > Subject: New Cyclades Driver needs Major Device #?
 > Date: 8 Mar 1995 16:36:19 +0200
 > Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Otaniemi, Finland
 > Lines: 36
 > Sender: news@elvis.clinet.fi
 > Approved: freebsd-hackers@clinet.fi
 > Message-ID: <199503081338.PAA04840@shadows.cs.hut.fi>
 > NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.clinet.fi
 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
 > In-reply-to: brian@MediaCity.com's message of 8 Mar 1995 08:18:44 +0200
 > To: brian@MediaCity.com (Brian Litzinger)
 > Cc: freebsd-hackers@freefall.cdrom.com
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... discussion about major numbers for Cyclades driver

 >    p.s.s. while I'm here anyway, why are netBSD and FreeBSD different efforts?
 > 
 > Well, there are several possible reasons:
 > 
 > - Linux people's secret plan to make sure *BSD won't ever be successfull.
 > 
 > - USL's secret plan to make sure free operating systems won't ever be
 > successfull.
 > 
 > - BSDI's secret plan to make sure free BSD versions won't ever be
 > successfull.
 > 
 > - Free operating system authors have got too much ego.
 > 
 > I'll promise to donate $100 of my own, and, say $400 of my company money to
 > BSD (or Free operating system) Consortium if one will ever be set up to get
 > rid of this mess.
 > 
 > -- 
 > Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND,
 > hsu@cs.hut.fi  home +358-0-8031121 work -4513377 fax -4555276  riippu SN

Some of the replies have only ended up into my mailbox.  None of them
contains a sum less than $100.

I don't strongly oppose there to be different efforts, just that they
coordinate the interfaces and the base Berkeley source code heritage
instead of disintegrating them.  A consortium dedicated to do this
coordination a'la X would seem to be a workable concept (I guess everything
else has already been tried).

-- 
Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND,
hsu@cs.hut.fi  home +358-0-8031121 work -4513377 fax -4555276  riippu SN