From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Mar 10 15:13:56 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA26089 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 15:13:56 -0800 Received: from hutcs.cs.hut.fi (root@hutcs.cs.hut.fi [130.233.192.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA26083 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 15:13:49 -0800 Received: from shadows.cs.hut.fi by hutcs.cs.hut.fi with SMTP id AA01496 (5.65c8/HUTCS-S 1.4 for ); Sat, 11 Mar 1995 01:13:11 +0200 From: Heikki Suonsivu Received: (hsu@localhost) by shadows.cs.hut.fi (8.6.10/8.6.10) id BAA17747; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 01:13:12 +0200 Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 01:13:12 +0200 Message-Id: <199503102313.BAA17747@shadows.cs.hut.fi> To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: freebsd-hackers@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies's message of 10 Mar 1995 10:13:19 +0200 Subject: Re: BSD Consortium? (where is the original?) Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Otaniemi, Finland Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could someone please repost the original "BSD Consortium" message? It got lost to me. The thread started from this one: > From hsu@cs.hut.fi Sat Mar 11 00:27:05 1995 > Path: elvis.clinet.fi!elvis.clinet.fi!not-for-mail > From: Heikki Suonsivu > Newsgroups: clinet.list.freebsd-hackers > Subject: New Cyclades Driver needs Major Device #? > Date: 8 Mar 1995 16:36:19 +0200 > Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Otaniemi, Finland > Lines: 36 > Sender: news@elvis.clinet.fi > Approved: freebsd-hackers@clinet.fi > Message-ID: <199503081338.PAA04840@shadows.cs.hut.fi> > NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.clinet.fi > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > In-reply-to: brian@MediaCity.com's message of 8 Mar 1995 08:18:44 +0200 > To: brian@MediaCity.com (Brian Litzinger) > Cc: freebsd-hackers@freefall.cdrom.com > X-Envelope-to: freebsd-hackers@clinet.FI > Precedence: bulk ... discussion about major numbers for Cyclades driver > p.s.s. while I'm here anyway, why are netBSD and FreeBSD different efforts? > > Well, there are several possible reasons: > > - Linux people's secret plan to make sure *BSD won't ever be successfull. > > - USL's secret plan to make sure free operating systems won't ever be > successfull. > > - BSDI's secret plan to make sure free BSD versions won't ever be > successfull. > > - Free operating system authors have got too much ego. > > I'll promise to donate $100 of my own, and, say $400 of my company money to > BSD (or Free operating system) Consortium if one will ever be set up to get > rid of this mess. > > -- > Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, > hsu@cs.hut.fi home +358-0-8031121 work -4513377 fax -4555276 riippu SN Some of the replies have only ended up into my mailbox. None of them contains a sum less than $100. I don't strongly oppose there to be different efforts, just that they coordinate the interfaces and the base Berkeley source code heritage instead of disintegrating them. A consortium dedicated to do this coordination a'la X would seem to be a workable concept (I guess everything else has already been tried). -- Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@cs.hut.fi home +358-0-8031121 work -4513377 fax -4555276 riippu SN