From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 14 18:19:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C0410659E5 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f21.google.com (mail-gx0-f21.google.com [209.85.217.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCDF8FC29 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:19:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: by gxk14 with SMTP id 14so726112gxk.19 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:19:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RqIwieIBerxyDhbOInEHp025fa2achTyqUQDkwoBwhM=; b=oi00ypn6Pr8xHReC3VPjDGU6Truwn8SfsswnbydoOxSyMmhNR+5XECM3RwX0pAJJPv KKhywXj/DxIHHwK7haV/IJl+qUmnUUxcs/Rk9jg89BtDvkLT5vfcTVmXSw5b93Mmedy7 b72q9tLNQESQOkLWq8Q9f9OA1l5/4RR+RYrD4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=Fj7gT2vgBBJtZ0LtXf1+pA1etJS9XZ+0Xal5UfD/l8/kW9Uqh7+FC6VbJljkxoW43l GgxfNKoBh9yRG8kmMn4Wvaw6lW2rImjS5dxND6apY8DA7KfhKssnv2JsCpoQhoOJRiBR ZvlBPc5Lyr8hobddU2o3Wz19zKid8QQIQOXlI= Received: by 10.90.83.2 with SMTP id g2mr269060agb.79.1231957169560; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.3.231? ([70.111.173.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 38sm67060704agd.18.2009.01.14.10.19.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:19:29 -0800 (PST) From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" To: George Neville-Neil In-Reply-To: References: <111DA6F0-24FF-417C-B37B-25780F7ECFF6@neville-neil.com> <1231952766.1172.31.camel@RabbitsDen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:19:01 -0500 Message-Id: <1231957141.1172.55.camel@RabbitsDen> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X60 overheating with 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:19:49 -0000 On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 12:13 -0500, George Neville-Neil wrote: > On Jan 14, 2009, at 12:06 , Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko wrote: > > >> > > That thread forked and re-forked a few times under the different > > subjects... > > > > Did you try setting > > > > hw.acpi.thermal.user_override=1 > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz1._PSV=75C > > > > in /etc/sysctl.conf? > > > Yes, that is now set and it keeps the machine from overheating BUT > the machine bounces around alot when doing any real work, like a build. > So the heat gets up to 80 then the CPU goes down to 125, then the heat > comes > down etc. I guess, we are down to expectations management here ;) I do no expect 1.83 GHz dualcore CPU, 3GB of RAM and 160GB of 5400RPM disk to be able to run at the top performance within 4 lbs package for any protracted period of time. I am quite happy with it doing -STABLE buildword under hour-and-a-half and re-encoding DVD movies at ~250fps. Or building OpenOffice.org under two days ;) > > If not, we can start by comparing machines and configurations. Mine is > > X60 (1709-something) with 1.83GHz "Core Not-2 Duo" which is 32-bit > > machine and I am running i386 version of -STABLE on it. I seem to > > recall > > that there are 64-bit capable X60 models out there as well and someone > > was running amd64 flavor on it. What's yours? > > > > I am running i386 as well and I think our machines are identical. Judging by "2000/Something" you have mentioned below, I suspect not. > I have tried powerd but, at least emprically, it seemed to cause > the bouncing heat/CPU speed issue to be worse, that is, higher peaks > and troughs. Just out of curiosity -- what are you using to visualize this? I was tempted a few times to put something together, but never really sat down to do it. > It NEVER gets down to 40 except when I turn it on. At idle the tz0 > and tz1 are > 60 and 62 respectively. I shall turn off powerd and Cx levels later today and see what I get than. > > > > Are you setting Cx levels in rc.conf? There are opinions whether doing C3 on one core (as I do) gains you anything, but, I believe, there is general consensus about C2. In my case, it seems to improve both battery life and heat dissipation. > I think I have one higher level, 2000/something at the start. I'll > look tonight > or tomorrow. That, likely means 2GHz processor, and AFAICR 64-bit capable to boot. -- Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko (Олександр Коваленко)