From owner-freebsd-current Mon Dec 2 3:58:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9931337B406 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from post-21.mail.nl.demon.net (post-21.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5571243ED1 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:58:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cls@raggedclown.net) Received: from [212.238.197.102] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post-21.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18IpDW-000B5a-00 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:58:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 9EADED3D for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:58:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from willow.raggedclown.net (willow.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.10]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 90FC1C7E for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:58:14 +0100 (CET) Received: by willow.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [willow], from userid 1009) id 92548225CC; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:58:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:58:15 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any ideas at all about network problem? Message-ID: <20021202115815.GB1211@raggedclown.net> References: <3DEB2786.6EDA2C1@mindspring.com> <20021202110453.GA906@raggedclown.net> <3DEB40CA.85F833EF@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DEB40CA.85F833EF@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre8 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 03:15:22AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > Cliff Sarginson wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:27:34AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > [ ... bad throughput on bad NICs ... ] > > > > Mmmm. I use these RTL cheapo nics. I accept the fact they have a bad > > reputation. However I have used them for some time, and they have > > behaved impeccably. I have noticed no change in throughput on 5.0 > > either, and since I have downloaded loads off stuff which comes through > > my firewall and then via the LAN to the 5.0 test machine I think I would > > have noticed if it was slower than normal. > > Having said that I have not checked the throughput, but then nothing has > > happened to make me want to check it. I run 4-7 Stable updated at least > > once a week, and the latest patched 5.0 from a few days ago. > > You may want to check it. You can at least confirm whether his > problem is his alone, or if it's shared by others. I suspect > that it will be specific to him, actually, given other factors > (i.e. it might be specifically an rl0 <-> rl0 only problem, etc.). > Ok, next time I do some largish downloads I will collect the stats to see if there is anything significant -- but as I say subjectively everything feels just about the same. > > > The network also runs through a fairly cheapo switch. > > It could be a duplex problem, but none of that code is different > from 4.7, and he says it works there, dso that's not going to be > it. > > I expect that it's his specific cards from a specific vendor, > and the only one who will be able to find the change that causes > his problem is him (he's the only one complaining about it, at > this point). > Yes I guess. They are pretty widely used despite their reputation ! The problem is the price differential between them and a super-whizzy card is pretty phenomenal, at least here in Holland. Having said that if I perceived it as a problem I would save my pennies up... -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message