From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 20:37:26 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833201436862 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 20:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7898F8ED13 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 20:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MJEpp-1guDcF3UWh-00Kf8k for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 21:37:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 21:37:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on HP Computer that is using software RAID 5 Message-Id: <20190103213716.4e8244f9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20190102222619.c63f20f0.freebsd@edvax.de> <6d05c736-8020-4963-fe29-3e6bd9110fe3@FreeBSD.org> <8a1d9b31-8dc7-753c-8d37-1eed2d0bd06a@FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:QSdc/inLOfU4wHpldHSjEbQde8lqUoldAKfg0LBve7hEaB9/Tiw bFDrQKzTIz2j/eucvlXqfakNXdCriaYW+InQ8W+jOSQQ5yMdzKnhfcZeVM3C0DFLrVVWvrv SBySiqa51/x3tSu6MxkSZCllw+LZk9NWOcrnSCdnOBFwPo2Mx6Q/Xpnc9gT3ZcR3kJi0HV0 K8Nix7V92219mtqbDyapA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:LDpmfy8kL1w=:PqZUaCHfPBD814jh2AI6Os pinWtSuAi2xg9AiqPquQzO9vEe2zXI/S9DSiMUp+OspqgKyIQJAUS0XxZO6KFxzXZyWlroDBs MezTl6wERfV2gqPlQMHeVskPuM+KOLiRZbqGNOnkm4Q11dPON1H9/zEJRM72YPLSYCNy6V2hC g68CNfFpninmID7xbROWpBy1kP8UbRwhtyoIiqxHCWcvho7OBUUhaKnvmbXdg0GHeXLst41SC 3g/L7bdi0zKkQTdLfECD6m97yzCret2zgkXWFWWgvucjyXkKkDhEW0bQmKfOT2PhX1z8gipZp SfdKAi2ThWi+ueJIWnIS36AdkKv67XDUmSzU5WZZK7Cr24oWyo2brGWEwfU0qEmYKLNBMzXr+ MQhfkwec6LXd/Wc33SLPKsynKHraX/faGpM17pyDK5EU04TM3WyGviy7tKDYOZLX+7zXqic01 6UoRQHqb8WWG9tfLXEUys3QMhfPG0yDr080yUxNTTGXd4Hutw/zlfpD6xgpEX3PXUBly8uRJk x+CufX+l6wAXPk5Q3Ap9y/3/nnKkEh/1q9el5vwXwtlxgsDR+8K6DdD5Jj6uY+mD6hgfXASxu CVp7mOzD54cXakKfTzNXYN9uZuMoZ/7qLuo5jGygZ28ExloOGtYh6klGgJ1HxA8Wh/8Cj8gbo ElgHJ4GpUOF9JvvfDTP7620bakqRIieS5QtcRykAXlJiPkSAh+8ac0gkMMDXDaUZd633ZlJAD WFL10ckn2TYGAVitrImDLD5N++HN66y7i0bl4W+ClfcFTGaxaZpRE02qlwU= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7898F8ED13 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.59 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.49)[0.489,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.60)[0.598,0]; IP_SCORE(0.15)[ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.34), asn: 8560(1.12), country: DE(-0.01)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.96)[0.956,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[24.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 20:37:26 -0000 On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 19:48:01 +0000, Carmel NY wrote: > When > a user downloads a new version of FreeBSD, lets say version 12.0, they > should get that version. Now, if there is a newer version, lets say > version 12.1 of 12.2, or whatever, the user should be presented with > the option of downloading the latest version. I'm not sure this matches with how people tend to obtain FreeBSD. Either from the website or from the FTP server, at some point there is a list of version, for example: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/ Name Type Size Time 10.1 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 10.2 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 10.3 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 10.4 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 11.0 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 11.1 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 11.2 Directory 06/27/2018 00:00:00 12.0 Directory 12/11/2018 19:07:00 9.3 Directory 11/12/2017 00:00:00 What kind of logic would imply that someone decides to download, let's say, version 11.0, but after starting the installation surprisingly wants or expects version 11.2? Sure, given Internet connection is available, such an option (!) would not be bad, if someone accidentally downloaded 11.0, but actually intended to install 11.2, to continue with the example presented above. Such options could also include to install patched versions (e. g., -RELEASE-pX) or more recent snapshots (e. g., -STABLE) which wouldn't even be on the -RELEASE list. But is this likely to happen? Those who update their system usually use freebsd-update or build from source, depending on very different needs and requirements, and even if it's the first thing they do after the installation of a -RELEASE version. My very individual summary: People download the version they want, not the version they don't want. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...