From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 28 08:20:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D94616A4D1 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 08:20:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C0B3743D4C for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 08:20:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2004 08:20:16 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: Wes Peters Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:20:15 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <6587631D.5034AB43.0F75C5EC@netscape.net> <200412271916.28076.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <200412272333.53058@zaphod.softweyr.com> In-Reply-To: <200412272333.53058@zaphod.softweyr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412280020.16012.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: grog@freebsd.org cc: core@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time to shut down this list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 08:20:17 -0000 On Monday 27 December 2004 11:33 pm, Wes Peters wrote: > On Monday 27 December 2004 19:16, you wrote: > > On Monday 27 December 2004 06:50 pm, Wes Peters > > > One of my ideas is to come up with a short, succint version of > > > the newbies list charter and to have it appended to every > > > message, as a list signature. Would any of you "frequent newbie > > > flyers" like to have a go at the text for this? This gentle > > > reminder should inform them to seek help on technical questions > > > on the -questions list, and refer to the newbies list charter via > > > URL. > > > > How about something like, "freebsd-questions is not a technical > > help or support list. See: > > http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/ " > > > > > *You* of all people should know where to find the official list > > > charter. ;^) > > > > Me, specifically? Well, yes, but I'm not sure why me, of all people > > ... > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresource > >s.html#E RESOURCES-CHARTERS > > Ah, sorry, I meant the inclusive "you" as in the previously > referred-to "frequent newbie flyers". And perhaps another sentence > or two describing what the newbies list IS for? > > But thanks for stepping up on this, I'm sure you'll come up with > something good, communicate it to core@, and someone there will > shepherd it over to postmaster. You see, I'm leaving on holiday > tomorrow morn... I was going for the most brevity ... OK, then, ... hmmm ... "freebsd-questions is a general discussion forum for new FreeBSD users to share their experiences and to help each other with non-technical issues. It is not a technical help or support list. See: http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/ " I dunno. This part: "help each other with non-technical issues" sounds not quite right, as people can answer broad technical questions here, like whether it's better to use a GUI interface for system administration. Am having trouble distilling a description down to one sentence. Maybe that's alright and I'm just overthinking it. Will send it out and see what you all think. - jt