From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 16:34:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC68C16A53A; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:34:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from r1a.corp.servercentral.net (exchange.corp.servercentral.net [66.225.247.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F0C43D2D; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:34:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by r1a.corp.servercentral.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:34:00 -0600 Received: from demandindustries.net ([161.58.224.124]) by r1a.corp.servercentral.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:20:22 -0600 Received: from scanner.servercentral.net (scanner.servercentral.net [66.225.196.47]) by demandindustries.net (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iAO3PXGG057566 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:25:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scanner.servercentral.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441C08700A7 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:25:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from scanner.servercentral.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mb [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32090-05 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:25:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by scanner.servercentral.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D668700A3 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:25:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0456A55505; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 03:25:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F3B16A507; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 03:25:00 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6330916A4CE; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 03:24:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cromagnon.cullmail.com (cromagnon.cullmail.com [67.33.58.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5C943D5C; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 03:24:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamoore@cromagnon.cullmail.com) Received: from cromagnon.cullmail.com (localhost.cullmail.com [127.0.0.1]) iAO3LwOL046502; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:21:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamoore@cromagnon.cullmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by cromagnon.cullmail.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iAO3Lwf8046501; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:21:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamoore) From: Jay Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:21:57 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <200411231657.iANGv8Ps000709@mist.nodomain> In-Reply-To: <200411231657.iANGv8Ps000709@mist.nodomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411232121.57813.jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis for cervercentral.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2004 06:20:23.0741 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE727ED0:01C4D1ED] cc: Dan Strick cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org cc: dan@mist.nodomain Subject: Re: Copyright Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Reply-To: jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:34:08 -0000 On Tuesday 23 November 2004 10:57 am, Dan Strick wrote: > (I suggest this thread be moved to the chat mailing list.) > > It is not clear that copyright law applies here. I doubt that the concept > of a cute demon is copyrightable. In order to be a copyright violation, > it might have to be obvious that the *only* way the vending machine daemon > could have been composed was to intentionally copy a daemon image whose > copyright is held by Kirk McKusick. (This one does look an awful lot like > some versions of the BSD daemon.) > > Trademark law might be more relevant. Even though though the vending > machine belongs to a marketplace not obviously connected to one in which > Kirk McKusick uses his daemons as a trademark, the vending machine machine > image does include a URL and I suppose one could at least argue that the > vending machine usage damages the value McKusick's trademark by > associating it with a product that protects a bunch of ... :-) > > A further complication is that Naughty International Limited is a European > company and the alleged property rights violation occurred in Europe. > > These issues are a bit subtle. If you really care about them, you should > ask a lawyer who works with intellectual property rights law. > > Dan Strick Poppycock, Dan... don't be a stick in the mud. The issues aren't subtle at all. And why should the OP consult an attorney about it? It's not his TM/copyrighted work/IP... I think he did "the right thing" by posting it here; perhaps the owner will learn about it, and can make his own decision about if/how to pursue it. Jay _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"