From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 02:18:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D831C066F for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x142.google.com (mail-il1-x142.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::142]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NhBM5sYkz3Q2M for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x142.google.com with SMTP id q1so22807470ile.13 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:18:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=t/EJ8f2VlZXn2AMpzIEvkCQZ9JctigsygKANKlYKxs8=; b=cc6NejMt9ahhs3EjrI1+G1hjmmjaORPNBTUfTAmCMd11xnIKot3HutnFbmLeUOus0k S+LfrWL/2N/PGZ5kjoRCcQUObVCgb4QU4IC2janFJ82v28sq57OtqwTMVADQRwwu/rlV cFAw5pQ7bID1U4zK+YJ4h+z7eQUAAc5sKkvHYOcynQTtxBJcr/tQs0VUyRGe6Fcckk3r ZCJLO2VJs9MSft+mH9x8c6R8mXjT2BH06d8UPBdTJM9jMC/28zIEVAZgEsdjuCjEjdlP TjkdowRcPyQs+/gqaGwaZJhhH7FDhe861ABIhaNBRxoEHc+EnxeEqG/YDKDhvJcmHiVL HL9Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=t/EJ8f2VlZXn2AMpzIEvkCQZ9JctigsygKANKlYKxs8=; b=cJUs3nxN5BcwHcoU/dLeZqLbuO51LAf4p2JDnEvtj+mMPmI3RCHYoCkq55wM9ZgxCY JgHlROGHNYprhyTBP8QnvzYumxBFdtJoq6P58DvHvgvWfFwFxzybX9VtKnhJETPXjDUQ M6doijq1w6M+Eo+SEC2ImbRDqOZTA8O8vSmvPEoNVVo5w0OWpG0DA9/XIgfPt0QE/fJR I/TuUx6Z4lzlfYDD7mG18VGXs1Q9lKoyttI4+08ZOiscnkF6NoobqM7hklbv4Wzd2zcD s1+3fDSFPAzzP50Zvvs27hYAb3vHYZACSMBP7pC/sNM1+sHEgoKwTOV5zTttC4sn/zTX rn5g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVZurrgndS4VUgpFkFTpSyNaSfFdw3xWMPbPCFTZTB2Oe6p4hOC hjIOLD5sYfQAGRoVVcrORKq2abcuo1nJmvGfqIc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxm080yaM/tcRtkohU+cZ41Cz7VpwOg+ZTvKFbwOQxxpQOCxMduVzXcadzb29x/CUnf3i5lYBKBPwX3VruFyiw= X-Received: by 2002:a92:6f05:: with SMTP id k5mr46181632ilc.98.1574907482125; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:18:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <18414268-96b1-6112-2c91-345aea9e7f24@gmail.com> <20191127160215.GA69810@neutralgood.org> <20191127160441.GB69810@neutralgood.org> <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> In-Reply-To: <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> From: vm finance Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:47:52 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: Kurt Hackenberg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NhBM5sYkz3Q2M X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=cc6NejMt; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vmfinance2@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::142 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vmfinance2@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.4.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (1.88), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.26), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:18:05 -0000 I tried to add hw.syscons.disable=3D1 to /boot/loader.conf but it stalls the system during bootup.... On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 5:34 AM Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2019-11-27 13:33, vm finance wrote: > > > I had to comment out this exact line to get my system to boot > successfully. > > I actually have "Pro-level NVIDIA=C2=AE Quadro=C2=AE P500 graphics" on = my P52S > > Thinkpad. > > Not sure if 12.1 has native support for this, or do I need to > > download/build this. > > > > Per the discussions on this topic, I think I should stay away from pkg > > ..drm-kmod > ... > >> kld_list=3D"/boot/modules/i915kms.ko" > ... > >>> However startx is still failing - same framebuffer error. > > All right, a few things are going on. > > It's true that to use any drm-kmod on 12.1, you have to compile it, so > it matches the kernel. (Those packages are compiled for 12.0, and > something changed in the kernel.) > > The framebuffer thing might be this: both versions of the AMD drm-kmod > (modules amdgpu and radeon) interfere with the EFI framebuffer. This bug > has not yet been tracked down. You can work around it by shutting off > the system console during boot, by adding this to /boot/loader.conf: > hw.syscons.disable=3D1 > There will be a system console after the drm-kmod driver is loaded and > takes over. However, this is only a problem with UEFI boot; > old-fashioned boot doesn't use that EFI framebuffer (I think it uses a > VGA framebuffer instead). And it's never a problem with the Intel > drm-kmod (i915kms), no matter how you boot. > > But neither of those drivers, Intel or AMD, applies to your Nvidia > graphics processor. Nvidia writes drivers for their GPUs, but apparently > does not give out source code, only binaries. I don't know whether > FreeBSD distributes those binaries. > > But it's possible that your laptop computer has two graphics processors. > Some do, apparently. That happens when the computer uses a main > processor that has a graphics processor included in the package, and > also has a separate graphics processor. I don't know why manufacturers > do that. > > But maybe you can get by without any GPU driver, which means not using > the graphics processor. Instead, graphics is done by software on the > main processor, which is slower. That may or may not be fast enough. If > your computer works, runs X and everything, without loading any graphics > driver, maybe that's OK. > > Some documentation: > https://freebsddesktop.github.io/ > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics > https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >