From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jan 4 19:29: 1 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA7137B401 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 19:28:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4322C43EA9 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 19:28:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15448; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 20:28:50 -0700 (MST) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20030104202521.03c33760@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 20:28:49 -0700 To: Rahul Siddharthan From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: On GCC Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20030105031751.GA34421@papagena.rockefeller.edu> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030104193746.0285b9c0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:17 PM 1/4/2003, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: >Oh great. So not only do we need to write a new compiler for FreeBSD, >we also need to rewrite the whole system in Modula-3 or whatever. It would make the systm more reliable and flush out a lot of bugs, that's for sure. But I'm not saying that we need to do that in this case. Rather, I'm saying that I'm not the best person for the job because I despise C. >> The OpenBSD camp (or at least Theo) hasn't been receptive when >> I've suggested "un-GNUing" their toolchain in the past. > >So who *has* been receptive? As in, which actual contributor to one of >these projects? Actually, I've gotten the most positive feedback about un-GNUing BSD from developers of FreeBSD. NetBSD comes in second, with two developers expressing interest. >You know what? You don't *need* to get any of these camps interested. >All these projects have immense amounts of BSD licensed code already >out there, and you can simply pick it up and do what you like with it. Oh, sure, just a simple matter of stitching. Just like Dr. Frankenstein did. ;-) >If you want to replace all GPL code, you're free to fork and do that. >You don't need to ask anyone's permission. Theo didn't, when he >started OpenBSD. No, he didn't. But it's much more productive to fix an existing project than to do a fork. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message