From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 20 02:43:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4917132 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221208FC12 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:43:52 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhQFAC7tqlB8qjN0/2dsb2JhbABFhTe9HoEIgh4BAQQBOkQLCw05FBgdASaIBwWvdZBDjhqCRmEDlXuFWTWKNoMD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.83,282,1352044800"; d="scan'208";a="58197982" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([124.170.51.116]) by icp-osb-irony-out9.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2012 10:43:51 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C600938F; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:43:50 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:43:50 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010?? Message-ID: <20121120024350.GA87547@ozzmosis.com> References: <20121118085838.GA7267@ethic.thought.org> <50AA00BA.1040007@bnrlabs.com> <20121119114306.ff21baa9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121119060029.76b85120@scorpio> <20121119121832.de248106.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:43:53 -0000 On Mon 2012-11-19 07:55:16 UTC-0500, Daniel Feenberg (feenberg@nber.org) wrote: > The only way for FreeBSD (or Linux, for that matter) to survive in a > world where hardware vendors care only about Windows, is to make sure > that FreeBSD only depends upon features that Windows uses. In a world where Windows drivers are rarely well-documented, let alone open source? I suspect what you suggest is easier said than done...