From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 2 09:55:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47E116A4CE for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 09:55:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de (mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de [130.183.70.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF9043D1F for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 09:55:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@mpe.mpg.de) Received: from robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de (robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de [130.183.136.59])with ESMTP id LAA13831 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:35:03 +0200 (METDST) Received: from robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i629Zl0B010122 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:35:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from krs@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de) Message-Id: <200407020935.i629Zl0B010122@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de> To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 11:35:47 +0200 From: Klaus Robert Suetterlin Subject: Q: state of the X (as related to fbsd). X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@mpe.mpg.de List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 09:55:10 -0000 Dear all, thanks for all the time spent on maintaining X11 under FreeBSD. I have questions on the XFree86 / Xorg matter and how its going to be handled by fbsd developers / maintainers. (To answer the obvious questions: I read the FAQ entry 11.2., I reqad through the freebsd-x11 mail archive.) 1) Why should anyone (I) use the Xorg software bundle? I mean ``really''. I mean ``today''. 2) Is there some kind of (in)official decision to choose one over the other? Or is there a strong personal feeling of the X11 (and related technology) maintainers involved? 3) What keeps the XFree86-4(.4.0) port update from beeing committed? Regards, Robert S. -- If anyone likes to know my feelings in that matter: - Xorg was unable to support its own code base. Even though they are a new organisation now, I do not believe they will cope much better after ``updating'' to Xfree86-4.3.99 and adding their ``many changes maintained elsewhere''. (They seem to rely on freedesktop.org to do the xserver for them.) - Yet ``[...] freedesktop.org is just a "collaboration zone" where ideas and code can be tossed around[...]''. The ``X Server'' is simply a project hosted there. I am unable (inkompetent) to judge its technical quality (or compare it to XFree86). How can anyone today decide wether X Server or XFree86 will develop faster / better? - I (Robert L. User) was unable to find anything except ``project split'', ``new licnese'', ``I'm pissed for some personal reason'' fud on this topic. Especially the freebsd faq entry is vague and I think misleading.