From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 1 05:58:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34ACB106564A for ; Tue, 1 Jun 2010 05:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE09A8FC08 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 2010 05:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svmailmarshal.bytecraft.internal ([10.48.0.3]) by bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o515wYWG064246; Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:58:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.48.0.24]) by svmailmarshal.bytecraft.internal with MailMarshal (v6, 7, 2, 8378) id ; Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:58:33 +1000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:58:22 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87zkzgx8rd.fsf@kobe.laptop> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: text editor Thread-Index: AcsA6ZyOWLGTCIHwTx6jVe5R4C4BbwAZDdNw From: "Murray Taylor" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" , "Robert Bonomi" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: text editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 05:58:45 -0000 Hmmm.... I have successfully run vi from a partition on=20 a 32M flash card in 32M of RAM The RAM also had memory disks for /var and /tmp. The entire system was dynamically linked so a lot of=20 space was saved by that build technique The box was an embedded system running SNMP, gsmsmd and a few oter thing as a real time network monitor for the Melbourne 2006 Commonwealth Games and the Asian Games a year or so later in Doha, Qatar the box (still) runs on FreeBSD 4 and was built this way =20 https://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html=20 the author did also make similar builds available for FreeBSD 5 and 6 NOTE all these have been replaced by nanobsd, but the techniques are still useful, especially if you are pushed for space. Murray Taylor Bytecraft Systems Special Projects Engineer P: +61 3 8710 0600 D: +61 3 9238 4275 F: +61 3 9238 4140 -- =20|_|0|_| "Absence of evidence =20|_|_|0| is not evidence of absence" =20|0|0|0| Carl Sagan -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Giorgos Keramidas Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 3:48 AM To: Robert Bonomi Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text editor On Mon, 31 May 2010 11:36:53 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> Vim is much smaller than Emacs but it still a few MB's here: >> >> keramida@kobe:/usr/ports/packages/All$ ls -ld vim* >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel - 5757731 1 =3DCE=3D91=3DCF=3D80=3DCF=3D= 81 17:11 vim-lite-7.2.344.tbz > > Yeah, but EMACS is (currently) reputed to stand for ighty > egabytes nd onstantly wapping! *GRIN* That's an old joke, but it's not particularly good anymore. The smallest laptop-size 2.5" SATA disk I have at home can hold more than 80 GB of data. The size of a program is now a limiting factor only if you are working with embedded applications. Normal, every-day computers have enough disk space to hold tens of thousands of full Emacs installations even without any sort of compression :-) --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material.=20 E-mails may not be secure, may contain computer viruses and may be corrupted in transmission. Please carefully check this e-mail (and any attachment) accordingly. No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --------------------------------------------------------------- ### This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses by Bytecraft ###