From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 12:50:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15ED337B401 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1CE43FA3 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6OJoLUp013514 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6OJoLmE013512; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200307241950.h6OJoLmE013512@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Josef El-Rayes Subject: Re: docs/54806: [patch] adds fvwm2 to x11-wm X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josef El-Rayes List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:50:22 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/54806; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Josef El-Rayes To: Marc Fonvieille Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/54806: [patch] adds fvwm2 to x11-wm Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:45:05 +0200 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > This section focus mainly on "desktops environments", but why not > talking about some window managers. So why FVWM 2 and not TWM, > AfterStep, Window Maker, IceWM, fluxbox etc. ? When i looked at this section i had the feeling that there was not enough. It perfectly talks about Gnome and KDE, the big two players, but i think it is important, to at least mention the alternatives. The reason why i decided to talk about fvwm2 is that it comes very near to a desktop environment. It has a panel, it manages sessions and multiple desktops. And i thought adding fvwm is like saying "hey unix world is more than gnome & kde". ok there is XFce but it is more a gnome without gnome-libs - like galeon is mozilla without xul (roughly defined). the next reason was, that greg lehey also mentioned fvwm2 as a kde alternative in his book, so i thought, ok this is what gurus think :) > Why not adding a link to the http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ page (this > page is guide to all window managers.) and then pointing the reader to > our ports/x11-wm directory? my patch is intended to be a "food for thought" - i am not happy with the current version of this chapter. i think my patch is one way to handle this, -> to add the most popular window managers, fvwm2, blackbox (with a mentioning of its offsprings), enlightenment and so on. what about linking some screenshots (this is what quite some people requested at our freebsd booth at linuxtag - "how does it actually look like"). another way good way is your [marc's] proposal to shorten this up and link to a patch that covers this topic and just linking it with a short description. i think i do not have enough experience on writing for the handbook to know what fits better into the handbook's style. in my opinion best solution is a compromise between this to solutions. to give a short overview of the windowmanagers available in ports, with their most important characteristics and linking some screenshots and giving the link to the above mentioned url for further reference. so to give a short answer, i added fvwm as a start to see, whether it is appreciated to add other windowmanagers to this section or not. greets, josef -- www: http://www.daemon.li nic-hdl: JER1080312-NICAT FreeBSD PortMaintainer "Make World - Not War!"