From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 21 8:53:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.57.60.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DFAD37B944 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:53:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 5767 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Mar 2000 16:53:39 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:53:38 -0500 (EST) From: Vince Vielhaber To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: David Murphy , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Voxware is toast. Get used to it. (Re: Suggestions for improving newpcm performance?) In-Reply-To: <13387.953657029@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > The problem is, -RELEASE is pushed out like a new release of a > > commercial OS, with big announcements, etc. etc., so people expect it > > to have been subject to a similar level of prerelease beta testing. > > Clearly this is not and cannot be the case, and IMHO therefore it > > should not be labeled -RELEASE, but -EARLYACCESS or similar. > > Actually, the problem is that we ARE now doing good quality "dot-zero" > releases and all our old quotes about how bleeding edge they are now > comes back to haunt us. I challenge you to find anything about 4.0 > which is inherently less stable or usable than, say, 3.4. We've > come a long way and probably need to stop scaring people off from > our releases. We didn't do a 30 day code freeze this time for nothing > you know! If the regular subscribers won't get 4.x until it's 4.1 and 4.0 is as stable as 3.4, then why weren't we even offered the same choice we had with the 2.2.8->3.0 transition (get them all - and 3.0 wasn't all that stable). Is there a reason that 4.0 isn't being shipped as part of the regular stable sub? Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 128K ISDN: $24.95/mo or less - 56K Dialup: $17.95/mo or less at Pop4 Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message