From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 4 21:18:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA19911 for current-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA19899 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA16325; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 00:18:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) cc: dg@Root.COM, current@FreeBSD.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Latest Current build failure In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Sep 1996 22:04:56 CDT." Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 00:18:10 -0400 Message-ID: <16322.841897090@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Wackerbarth wrote in message ID : > Since you, collectively, are unwilling to accept anything that an outsider > does unless it is a completely implemented, tested and documented package, > you will never, IMHO, solve the fundamental structural problems of your > approach nor realize the values that can be reached in incremental steps. Richard, We do accept packages that are not completely tested or documented, but they have to EXIST first! We cannot commit vapourware to the CVS tree (despite the fact Microsoft seem to do it regularly). I think that there is this problem here. You say we don't accept your solutions to problem `x'. For everyone else in the universe, to date, to accept their solution to `x' we ask for code as we can discuss theory until we are blue in the face (and often do), but working code (or even semi-working code) is all that really matters to a voluntary project like ourselves. I think maybe if you had a track record of producing good results, we would accept proposed solution and give you the reins, but (to my memory at least) you are still a relative unknown. So there is (in my mind at least) a confidence level yet to be attained for us to accept this sort of solution. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info