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Date:      Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:24:57 -0500
From:      "Kevin M. Dulzo" <kdulzo@caffeine.gerp.org>
To:        freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Advancing FreeBSD/sparc
Message-ID:  <20000822152456.A13607@caffeine.gerp.org>

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	So far in the little time I have been able to divert to working
on different aspects of this port I have stumbled upon a few issues.

	The first being the "chosen" platforms to be supported.  As I
recall, historically this was a sponsored project to bring FreeBSD onto
the sparc4u (UltraSparc) family of platforms.  After this support was
dropped it was mentioned that many only have older sparc4c and sparc4m
available to do any work on.  I see no reason to exclude older machines
from a port of FreeBSD as many of these lunch/pizza boxes can be had
rather cheaply and are quite effective at accomplishing tasks.  I plan
to work heavily on the 4c and 4m initially as a 4u machine is quite out
of my reach.

	The next issue being the approach to get this whole beast moving
in any direction at all.  Some have pointed the need to get the bootloader
and kernel so that a single-user prompt milestone can be reached.  Others
have pointed to the alpha ports use of the NetBSD kernel and loader to
build libc and then userland.  Personally, my sparc assembly is a little
rusty to say the least and the second option sounds quite within my reach
to spend my time on.

	Another issue had to deal with tracking changes/committing and
which branch(es) should be used.  I have no idea on this one, current
would make the most sense, a majority of my familiarity is in the stable
branch.

	Since there seems to be little activity or mildly off-topic
activity my excitement at seeing an 'N' in front of my freebsd-sparc
box was quelled.  I was hoping we can spawn some quality productive
threads to really thrash out ideas with current information and 
possibly a new zeal.

	-Kevin
	P.S.  Anyone have any Sparc 5 memory they want to loan or
		sell me cheaply =)
-- 
:Kevin M. Dulzo:ccna.ccda:freebsd:everything_else:
--eyes betray a soul and bear its thinking
--beyond words they say so many things to me



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