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Date:      Sun, 12 Dec 1999 23:00:02 -0700
From:      "Kenneth D. Merry" <ken@kdm.org>
To:        "Gary D. Margiotta" <gary@tbe.net>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Tekram vs. Adaptec U2W
Message-ID:  <19991212230002.A25439@panzer.kdm.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9912122003180.13341-100000@thud.tbe.net>; from gary@tbe.net on Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 08:08:46PM -0500
References:  <Pine.LNX.4.10.9912122003180.13341-100000@thud.tbe.net>

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On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 08:08:46PM -0500, Gary D. Margiotta wrote:
> Heya...
> 
> Am about to purchase 2 u2w controllers for a box... I was thinking of
> purchasing a Tekram card, but I'm an Adaptec fan.  A friend of mine bought
> a Tekram card, and won't stop raving about it, and he has an Adaptec u2w
> also.
> 
> I was just wondering if anyone has any good experiences with the Tekram
> cards, and has an opinion as to whether I should buy one instead of going
> the Adaptec way.
> 
> The box is already a news server, dual PII-450, 512MB RAM, and has a good
> amount of use.  We will be running 9 drives per card, in Kingston data
> silos.  There will be no RAID array of any sort. so no need to use a DPT
> card, or require any card to have RAID support.

There are several things to point out here:

 - A Tekram board can mean one with a NCR/Symbios/LSI chip, one with an AMD
   53c974 (DC390, I think) or one with Tekram's own Ultra-Wide chip (the
   DC395 boards, I think).  I would advise against getting an AMD-based
   board for anything but a cheap SCSI board, and I wouldn't advise getting
   boards based on their Ultra-Wide chip.  Tekram has written a FreeBSD
   driver for their TRM-S1040, but from the implementation it appears that
   the chip, like the AMD 53c974, doesn't have a SCSI phase engine.

   If you're going to get a Tekram board, get one of their Symbios/LSI
   based boards.

 - I would not recommend the stock FreeBSD ncr driver for production use.
   I know many people have had good success with it, and will swear that
   their hardware has never given them trouble, and on and on, but that
   doesn't change the facts:

	- The ncr driver isn't being actively maintained.
	- Its error recovery code leaves much to desired.

   Most people who have had great success with their NCR boards also
   probably haven't had very many SCSI hardware problems.

   I would recommend the sym driver, written by Gerard Roudier
   <groudier@club-internet.fr>.  The sym driver is actively maintained, but
   is still in the beta phase.  The source is located here:

	ftp://ftp.tux.org/tux/roudier/drivers/freebsd/experimental

   If you want to use the driver in production, contact Gerard first.

 - The Adaptec driver/hardware is being used in production in many, many
   places.  It is well maintained and supported, and is certainly a much
   better alternative than the ncr driver.  Once Gerard's sym driver gets
   to the "release" stage, it will probably be just as good a choice as the
   Adaptec driver.

 - If you do use an Adaptec board, I would suggest using a very recent
   -stable or FreeBSD 3.4.  There was an important work-around for a bug in
   the 7890 that went in just after FreeBSD 3.3, and Justin checked in some
   termination fixes for the 7896/7 this weekend.


Ken
-- 
Kenneth Merry
ken@kdm.org


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