From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 14:40:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FB6881 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-da0-f54.google.com (mail-da0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028538FC12 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f54.google.com with SMTP id z9so1821479dad.13 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:40:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=vq7DUKKMngV+p6PLSb12AWRifdFbNqRrMyS8z/hlyGE=; b=I5hS3DFeiKCRVr/V3NOhEbL/W5Hi5DAX4d5jJ7agzysaBdGWadgovZHraCtm72hzeL 1kwMLd1iPLTYxVBZpxQcrsEEty7xxtXjSM+F14EGOtok1nvBuhUJ0Vaw2YeGxW0EP8vy 2xHSUHG1TMcnZArlF1GzuoUQnGuwW2K2ZKqkA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=vq7DUKKMngV+p6PLSb12AWRifdFbNqRrMyS8z/hlyGE=; b=MXfHKsRIkz4vuU7y8WhuryGad7nXrj4nHPrArBeQRUHbAj5eHt3dZv4jwwYA1HzMaw FZUhPVbVrkNq+uUPae1qbDFLBhR9XfjI6BDjvkAdu435wbFsa55NH0grKPzUNtJTkNnW pELZ/ekiJ+K4JJoXZ2uPonh0S71Ajid7JcsZysQxZhTsOFZxKaD+YlnVDN+avZDem43U 8wdKqeCVi+ewQCRwJPZghE6Ro+IfKoNXT9BQTlUfuAvdClXzjyFDCFXcYOkeagV+ljX0 V1B2BHmYITLrhIPSw643wFyMIDUcFwofldCIZcm6M/v0kQMQFLxNSD3ITL3qoJe79toT JaWw== Received: by 10.66.90.65 with SMTP id bu1mr70362671pab.31.1351348843290; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:40:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.161.163 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:40:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201210020750.23358.jhb@freebsd.org> <201210021037.27762.jhb@freebsd.org> <127FA63D-8EEE-4616-AE1E-C39469DDCC6A@xcllnt.net> <20121025211522.GA32636@dragon.NUXI.org> <3F52B7C9-A7B7-4E0E-87D0-1E67FE5D0BA7@xcllnt.net> <20121025221244.GG3808@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20121026181152.GC44331@dragon.NUXI.org> <20121026204910.E1FFA58094@chaos.jnpr.net> <20121026233225.54FB858094@chaos.jnpr.net> <508BF062.8020101@shatow.net> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:40:13 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program To: Chris Rees Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkL7NlPDdeg2PMM8MOisWO65ENbIXYA8y2bwkc4FClnvdnK3P0kyYV7t+juC3zcrNYmQ4OH Cc: "Simon J. Gerraty" , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Bryan Drewery X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:40:44 -0000 On 27 October 2012 10:34, Chris Rees wrote: >> This "weeks" is making a assumptions that users 1. reads ports@ or 2. >> Update to security/errata patches in a timely manner or 3. Read UPDATING > > Quite. This should be at least a few months, otherwise we're making > unreasonable requests of our users, and yet again annoy them by > breaking older versions-- this time with no real benefit for > end-users. +1 I would venture to guess that most of our users don't even read -announce. In addition there are non-ports concerns here. Many people probably have custom Makefiles they use for their own projects which may rely on existing behavior. -- Eitan Adler