From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 30 09:56:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F813360 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 09:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x22f.google.com (mail-oa0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 149A1A3F for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 09:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id i11so8025714oag.6 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 02:56:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rfXlDJ3UTsiwKcQqO8NHJZD5K108eah+VdawfUJXz3Y=; b=zCIltdJu+p7QcVp3NrbP6ng5ErRQsg1QVVhzUC+DPVXzVU5FAgSvx7okGa5Mf1MkPT 0ib7guwWboJ7v4la4lj42Xo02j3zrsWb+zF9DNSrn1LTt8E+xY4MRt6Mb86URViEOEMC 7vO+L7iAL0scFnQMDkCOcQtRDPZu9BWEA0fCkEiJ6kEe04kJj/O6XYj3D9thqixgGzsy bda0yFH4yeosp7fCXmjsQHlg+7Ax+X15j965EGOs+IjwpGBCXtxG3V8wj8ZAA4C0vnj/ W55B3hDOuAczn2EfnMrYER8cBZAeY1TPKYC6mC9ZsZtmN74ghfJtoxWgjsq5PyU7U95g 5JlQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.62.146 with SMTP id y18mr16462817oer.24.1396173397389; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 02:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.130.71 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 02:56:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5336F155.5090901@allanjude.com> References: <53365D6F.5020804@allanjude.com> <20140329055249.GA69809@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20140329092923.GS37436@e-new.0x20.net> <20140329131110.GA71345@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <5336F155.5090901@allanjude.com> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 05:56:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A proposal From: Joe Nosay To: Allan Jude , freebsd-current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 09:56:39 -0000 On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2014-03-29 09:21, Joe Nosay wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Steve Kargl < > > sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:29:23AM +0100, Lars Engels wrote: > >>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:52:49PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > >>>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 01:46:15AM -0400, Joe Nosay wrote: > >>>>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Allan Jude > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 2014-03-29 01:22, Joe Nosay wrote: > >>>>>>> I have noticed that options VPS, VIMAGE, and MROUTING are not > >> standard > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>> the kernel with a base install. Is there any way that these can be > >> made a > >>>>>>> part of the normal kernel so that jail(s) would get the full > benefit > >>>>>>> without a kernel recompile? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> VIMAGE has some problems with PF. Martin Matu ska said at AsiaBSDCon > >>>>>> that he had a patch that solves the issue. > >>>>> > >>>>> Really, you say? That's good news. > >>>>> So, will those options soon be standard for a first time install? > >>>> > >>>> Certainly, hope not. I don't use any of options. > >>> > >>> So you use all the other devices and options of the GENERIC kernel? > >> > >> Of course, not. Not sure how you inferred such a thing. > >> > >> IMHO, GENERIC should contain only those devices and options > >> that are required to get FreeBSD booted on new hardware. > >> VIMAGE and MROUTING aren't needed, and can be configured by > >> the user after installation. As for VPS, AFAICT, there isn't > >> an option/device named VPS; at least 'find /sys/ -type f | xargs > >> grep VPS' wasn't too enlightening. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Steve > >> > > > > > > http://www.7he.at/freebsd/vps/announcements/ > > > > > > Booyah. It exists. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > VPS only exists in a project branch, and is not nearly in a state to be > included in GENERIC > > And I don't see a compelling reason to have MROUTING in GENERIC either. > > -- > Allan Jude > > VIMAGE?