From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 11 01:59:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1CD3F03 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2015 01:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A19AF1081 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2015 01:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=8BUFzsEAw3gU/qq05+are8Nu0JlXK0tMpCXlnidHIhU=; b=NwfrGKVPXvC97zsCALSfckywy1/9pBDwCoJuP+n1tMcZ8+wpQ33xSKnFca+cLhLr2yfpde4zdwKqs8Y5cREuvGY4burq9AkidrgTtDkvBYIw/tmlekVGxbWlBqAV7+LVcbin1Xi9V2saUMRN9DwZoHKw5Ikvl56CNeBmA5E7utg=; Received: from [114.124.38.248] (port=33014 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDj9l-002i9l-Ch; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 19:00:42 -0600 Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 09:00:31 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Jerry Cc: FreeBSD FreeBSD Subject: Re: Microsoft Now OpenBSD Foundation Gold Contributor Message-ID: <20150711090031.34df2a09@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20150710140324.362fd648@seibercom.net> References: <559FF775.7030204@mgm51.com> <33650.128.135.70.2.1436549147.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20150710140324.362fd648@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 01:59:06 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 14:03:24 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 12:25:47 -0500 (CDT), Valeri Galtsev stated: > > > On Fri, July 10, 2015 11:48 am, Mike wrote: > > > On 7/10/2015 12:43 PM, Carmel NY wrote: > > >> I wonder why they choose OpenBSD over FreeBSD? > > >> > > >> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20150708134520&mode=expanded&count=27 > > > > > > Probably is related to: > > > > > > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20150603090420 > > > > With all my scepticism I would more consider that as an excuse, > > implying the reason may be something like this: > > > > http://slashdot.org/story/10/12/15/004235/FBI-Alleged-To-Have-Backdoored-OpenBSDs-IPSEC-Stack > > > > (I didn't say exactly this, I said something like this...) So, I'm > > actually quite happy they didn't choose FreeBSD ;-) > > > Sorry but that is impossible. Many eyes makes FOSS software > invulnerable to this sort of attack? Or, at least that is what fools > like to believe. Say any lie enough times and some moron will believe > it. > impossible? I doubt it. But it is impossible with money alone. So, why bother, be happy for the project. If Microsoft would like to infiltrate they would use a guy name Erich who provides small, small patches nobody suspects, which will be integrated over time and finally make the backdoor work. Does here anybody believe that NSA hacks something with an NSA IP address? Erich