From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Mon Jan 8 07:13:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F30BE7C731 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2018 07:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75A16D506 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2018 07:13:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 39907964; Mon, 08 Jan 2018 13:08:34 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w087DK1V052537; Mon, 8 Jan 2018 14:13:22 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w087DGtR052534; Mon, 8 Jan 2018 14:13:16 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 14:13:16 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Freddie Cash Cc: freebsd-net Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Quasi-enterprise WiFi network Message-ID: <20180108071316.GA52442@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180107180422.GA46756@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.1 (2017-09-22) X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2018 07:13:25 -0000 Freddie Cash wrote: > > > Ah, ok, now I see what you mean by "quasi-enterprise WiFi). You are looking > for a way to create an encrypted wireless connection where a > username/password combo is used instead of a PSK, using something like (but > not as heavy as) 802.1x. I don't even need an *encrypted* wireless connection, these username/login pairs are not precious, and the traffic is just Internet. Yet another problem with captive portals is that not all client applications are web browsers. I personally get very annoyed when my mobile RSS reader or some other app does not work until I visit some stupid web page. > > Can't help with that. We stayed down the 802.1x path, had a working RADIUS > setup, but balked at all the setup that would be required on the end-user > devices and abandoned it. > > There may be a way to do it automatically nowadays, without requiring > client certs and 802.1x clients, but we haven't looked into it in over 5 > years. Yes, that's what I'm looking for, without requiring client certs and 802.1x clients. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859