From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 27 23:26:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340D5D4; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royce.williams@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com (mail-la0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8494E21DF; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:26:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id ev20so2692598lab.39 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:26:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=trPVCMHz5fZKva76fm3ppIS5TnwPf770fGtsyS2zTD4=; b=IBRwobZDRjj4Wjsy5TyLV1vQbGU0jK9LN1vsS7cqdI2KaZlc3VnMHVYNHGT6hIkp7X Awj6IyMEnxw45gJMDYVJoHMt64hoTROQIugr54VbngyjwuF5ypsOK44eQNRO4wDg8olm 1kk6iNo3LeWGwhMfPYVcykGWq2CVQQVRZuePduahrZkEa+yosEnjKjef9JRGz67YFOMS PePZOmAg3nVuIUjPdH/HhzH12WhwfX4eq79ZO0SFAbkVrJ5lHWjfgTFAc/r2p0XdAHOW F0CEzBgtrP/zFnFA97imhRKD7o1W3iXpxEZMPecuA9FZRhqi8Xa+vyRlYDphE4sDoVH+ kM0Q== X-Received: by 10.112.143.3 with SMTP id sa3mr10586257lbb.12.1380324377355; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:26:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: royce.williams@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.138.227 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:25:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <52460D3F.304@gmail.com> References: <20130921123125.309f30eb@thor.walstatt.dyndns.org> <523D7784.30002@FreeBSD.org> <5246014B.70908@gmail.com> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC01B09@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> <52460D3F.304@gmail.com> From: Royce Williams Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:25:56 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eyRZ0dRXzGo6OvvzjzKlQ5_QioM Message-ID: Subject: Re: 9.2-PRE: switch off that stupid "Nakatomi Socrates" To: David Demelier Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Devin Teske , freebsd-stable stable , "Teske, Devin" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:26:20 -0000 On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:57 PM, David Demelier wrote: > > >> I have loader_logo="orb" and I still have a message at the right bottom > >> with that stupid joke. I know that you're passionate about this topic, but if you could drop the subjective parts and focus on the facts, that would be more constructive. > Seriously, I don't understand why people waste time to create jokes like > that instead of working on serious issues. Because we're not robots. We need to occasionally shift gears to avoid burning out. Taking a break to do something playful can actually improve overall productivity. Especially if you're pushing hard to get a world-class OS out the door in your copious free time. > >> Also in the future you can just forgot that crappy ideas as you can see, > >> nobody liked it. I actually thought that it was pretty cool. It may have needed an easier off switch, but I think that it was harmless. > Check again in the lists, I'm not the only one complaining on that. This depends on which lists. I'm not the only one who thought it was cool. People were passing it around and appreciating the reference. I'm honestly mystified by the backlash on this. Did people panic because they thought they'd been hacked? If so, future logo humor could be adjusted to account for this. I understand leaving out true code-based easter eggs, to keep code clean and simple. But this was a humorous logo change for an alpha release. It seems harmless to me. Royce