From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 28 09:30:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06304 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06219 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:29:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA02815; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:29:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id SAA24699; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:29:31 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980928182931.41626@follo.net> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:29:31 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Jeremy Lea Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Current is Really Broken(tm) References: <8655.906831168@critter.freebsd.dk> <199809272059.NAA29095@usr05.primenet.com> <19980928161951.B286@shale.csir.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19980928161951.B286@shale.csir.co.za>; from Jeremy Lea on Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 04:19:51PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 04:19:51PM +0200, Jeremy Lea wrote: > Hi, > > I want to display my complete ignorance and cluelessness (especially with > all things related to kernels and devices and booting), by asking a silly > question. It's sort of related to this thread but sort of not... well at > least I think so. > > On Sun, Sep 27, 1998 at 08:59:02PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Which the kernel has to know anyway, in order to mount things. > > The structures are there, and they're not going to go away, no > > matter how ugly their being there is deemed. Well, until we > > support discardable ELF section tags for unused kernel components. > > Why doesn't the kernel always use an MFS as root? I've seen a ton of traffic > go by on these lists about the magic needed to mount root partitions, and it > would seem to me (in my small mind), that using an MFS, like the boot > floppies and PicoBSD, which would always be a `known' quantity, would make a > lot of these problems go away. Yes. I believe the main reason it doesn't do that is that too many people believe it too radical. I know a number of developers (hi phk!) would like to have the actual device probes controlled from a very small userland running out of a ramdisk - personally, I think this might be a good architecture, but as I haven't seen an implmentation yet, I'm not quite sure. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message