From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 1 08:48:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28039 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 08:48:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28033; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 08:47:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA18644; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:47:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:47:36 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Alfred Perlstein cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , mark@grondar.za, donegan@quick.net, scrappy@hub.org, dcs@newsguy.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Brian Feldman wrote: > > > > > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 21:01:32 -0500 (EST) > > > > From: Brian Feldman > > > > > > > > The GPL works fine with FreeBSD, we have a src/gnu, if you don't remember. The > [...] > > > > If you can find any fault in including exim, state it. > > > > > > > > > can a company take FreeBSD, including exim, make modifications and > > > sell the result. several companies to this. the gnat box, nokia, > > > whistle and others. > > > > They seem to have, seeing as we already HAVE GPL software included in the > > base distribution. Maybe you should ask Julian Elischer :) > > Brian, perhaps instead of flooding my mailbox with your ramblings you could: > > 1) Wait a couple of years and manage a few lists of this volume like our > friend Jonathan has. > > 2) Perform a 2 year (hell 5 year) study on the various mailers, it'll keep > you busy, trust me. > > 3) Realize that exim isn't bundled with any system and would be a big step > backwards in making FreeBSD a choice for a homeogenous shop and that it's > in the ports if you need it. That's not the point. Exim is an example of yet another widely used MTA that could potentially be bundled with an OS. Postfix was the first example. The point to be shown is that even with Postfix in the tree, people will STILL use what they prefer, and for a lot of people that will be exim; for many people it will still be sendmail. Postfix should be a _port_, and sendmail should stay in the distribution. You forget that on a set of FreeBSD CDs, the ports, in the form of packages, are all right there. Anyone with half a brain during installation could check off which extra MTA to install, disable sendmail, and enable . Ports, my friend, are the solution, not to clutter FreeBSD's base. > > 4) Realize that there is news that several commercial Unix vendors are > quite possibly moving to Postfix. It would be to FreeBSD's advantage > to roll with them into this. This advantage can be realized by the ports and packages. Sendmail is more than just a tradition of BSD, it's what people _know_ and _use_. > > And I really wish everyone would realize that jmb is only adding postfix, > HE IS NOT REMOVING SENDMAIL. All you m4 freaks settle down a bit, > get off his back, and step out of the way of progress, thanks. :) Adding another MTA while not removing the 'old' is pointless clutter. > > -Alfred "my MTA is netcat" Perlstein > > > > > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ > > green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ > > http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | > > FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ > > > > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message