From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Dec 20 12:32:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07317E8612D for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 12:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA80B6AFAE; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 12:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1235) id 2E725187EF; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 12:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:32:50 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Johannes Lundberg Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vote: making wayland=on default Message-ID: <20171220123250.hzbxaz6qbfb2wzrh@ivaldir.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vqlztm2luzuituzk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20171208 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 12:32:52 -0000 --vqlztm2luzuituzk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 09:20:20AM +0000, Johannes Lundberg wrote: > Hi >=20 > I want to suggest that we enable wayland by default. In current state > having some parts of wayland in ports is basically useless the > end-users themselves re-build gtk30 and mesa-libs with wayland > enabled. >=20 > libwayland-egl.so from mesa-libs and the extra libraries and headers > from gtk30 adds like a few KB, a drop in the ocean compared to xorg > packages. (might be something more that I missed) >=20 > Personally I see no reason not to make it default on, even with > flavors coming up. For any Desktop user (as well as embedded devices > like IVI-systems and whatnot), Wayland is the future. There's no > escaping that. >=20 > Wayland has been quite usable on FreeBSD for over a year now but > access to it is limited due to the extra efforts required to use it. >=20 > If we are to compare with the other guys, several Linux distros are > already switching to wayland-based compositors as default window > server. >=20 > What do you think? >=20 I agree on that, we should activate wayland everywhere by defualt, as it do= es not prevent at all from having a fully fonctionnal regular X working as wel= l. All wayland option should be on, and this as nothing to do with flavors :) Please do it :) Best regards, Bapt --vqlztm2luzuituzk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEgOTj3suS2urGXVU3Y4mL3PG3PloFAlo6WFsACgkQY4mL3PG3 PlrxYBAAzzC0uJ5w6boH0P/EcMLX4CTomv/92vjsKQdwnW6Rk1i+OEpJpJRAccuC ipYwczG9opw86vvWfjxWHMyo7iZGJG5LmsBIpuJCeur7E05uYF9/d0bKedsxPzEX KAz9AvO9wO6mFr5z4GSPuW65xRq2hS8jK/JMY5OuVm4vz9aF+0MRRul16koY7U+O FlK8rZvx3gR5x6VH5+lu1vJjuEd1PxNy4VTaIZ4ntbuaKgbkMwTIdz2KEQ7pN0P9 A71j8kmjpim3FVQRFSDnrFXnPHsECzJ6upM0kZXfw3RsxokZbkwO1AtidX2YnQ11 BzSCOCt6aZjvpejwPdvRtnUqHfraZa5fIZ30cwW73QLH4A6dUBIbv1FcNj6VD7nq WJAGuFGY59+3Mrj/e/PBIS/58GZ01h13gM7OZdu1YjUTfqik0Du3irdnlODCbEdL oDmUViFoQxW4mqMurnoBwdn5Vv8zESg47NTxbXkNwSF/RWx7s9ffMjfeTExRud9y 5zwixYIf3wi+8Yu8bzbrUYqcimU//psoebTZyJTanqL1i8r8XPc3d5KkV3ioumtn K8jJqx2Tv/kN0Tiwv2x0zcECi5dpSrkitOCJr6+X7s/A6sI0kCky3T/p5E8dWg0J NPP2WkPSzGG/HTxQIZewxMUofVhNxaXXYV0b3hp5lxnDYZMzWrk= =rmP0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vqlztm2luzuituzk--