From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Oct 1 22:45:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA07316 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Pescadero.DSG.Stanford.EDU (Pescadero.DSG.Stanford.EDU [171.64.79.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA07311 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (Pescadero.DSG.Stanford.EDU [171.64.79.10]) by Pescadero.DSG.Stanford.EDU (8.7.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA24656; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:44:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199610020544.WAA24656@Pescadero.DSG.Stanford.EDU> To: Chris G Demetriou cc: "Kevin P. Neal" , Poul-Henning Kamp , Jason Thorpe , "Justin T. Gibbs" , James Graham , hackers@freebsd.org, tech-kern@netbsd.org, jonathan@DSG.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: VPS mailing list, BSD interest? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Oct 1996 01:14:55 EDT." <122.844233295@ux2.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 22:44:43 -0700 From: Jonathan Stone Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <122.844233295@ux2.sp.cs.cmu.edu>Chris G Demetriou writes > >Sane architectures typically read the first N blocks off the disk, >or read something in a well-known format from the first block of the >disk that indicates what other blocks to read. >Yes, on a sun3 or DECstation, you're going to lose, but that's not >that big a deal, at least to me. Wrong, at least on DECstations. They're ``sane'' by your description; very like the TC alphas, in fact. The lossage on DECstations is that there's no good way to set anything in the PROM that indicates to the kernel which partition to use as root. We could always invent a syntax for encoding root partitions for kernels that prompt for a root partition. It's getting autoboot to DTTR, or specifying it to the PROM instead of a generic-style kernel, that's problematic. (The other lossage is that I haven't discovered a realiable, sufficiently low-pain installation procedure, but that's another story).