From owner-freebsd-ppc Mon Jan 8 14:25:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.atl.bellsouth.net (mail1.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5951137B698 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from matter.net (adsl-20-74-101.asm.bellsouth.net [66.20.74.101]) by mail1.atl.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id RAA16000; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 17:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from durkin@localhost) by matter.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f08MP8i06527; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 17:25:08 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: gigantor.matter.net: durkin set sender to durkin+g6tyde@matter.net using -f Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 17:25:08 -0500 From: Craig Durkin To: Matt Johnson Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the abi Message-ID: <20010108172507.A874@matter.net> References: <20010103112508.D27798@rafe.jeamland.net>; <20010102012039.A31690@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010102121741.A33602@electricjellyfish.net> <20010103112508.D27798@rafe.jeamland.net> <20010107231752.A442@matter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from Matt Johnson on Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 07:43:39AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 07:43:39AM -0500, Matt Johnson wrote: > All of the Powermacs with a 601 chip have no Open Firmware and no PCI bus. > MkLinux (which was Apple's internal Linux distro for Macs) did support > these machines, but as far as I know any remnants of MkLinux have long > since vanished. 3rd party Linuxes for the PPC and NetBSD support as far as > I can tell all PowerPCs with Open Firmware and a normal PCI implementation. > I think other than the peripheral hardware (USB, etc.) in the NewWorld > machines, the pre-G3 Macs are structurally very similar to the Newworld > Macs. > I for one would very much like to see FreeBSD for both my Powermac G4 and > my 604e/200 UMAX machine. So then, OF and PCI bus are the deciding factors? I heard that mentioned before on this list, but I didn't know if that was the official scope of the project or not. If that's the case, then the 603(e) is most likely out, cause my PB1400c has a 603e and neither OF nor PCI. By the way, MkLinux support from Apple is pretty dead, and 3rd party support is semi-alive. http://www.mklinux.org has a lot of out-of-date info, but the mailinglists seem to be alive and kernels are created somewhat often. I for one would love to see FreeBSD for your machines as well, but I feel very left out with both of my Macs lacking PCI and OF. :( Cheers Craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ppc" in the body of the message