From owner-ctm-users@freebsd.org Tue Jul 10 21:30:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23520102EAAB for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from land.berklix.org (land.berklix.org [144.76.10.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "land.berklix.org", Issuer "land.berklix.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91F6C8D367 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FA8EA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.250.142.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by land.berklix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w6ALUcuc066038 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:30:43 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id w6ALUbLb063995 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 23:30:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w6ALUOnR097654 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 23:30:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201807102130.w6ALUOnR097654@fire.js.berklix.net> To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Planning to stop CTM in November 2018 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.eu BSD Unix Linux Consultants, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.eu/free/ X-From: http://www.berklix.eu/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 09 Jul 2018 22:51:36 -0000." Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 23:30:24 +0200 X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:30:52 -0000 "Montgomery-Smith, Stephen" wrote: > I am thinking of stopping production of CTM updates in November 2018. > The reason is that the computer it operates on uses FreeBSD-10 which > will go EOL in November 2018. If I update to FreeSBD-11, then I will > have to rebuild the gnupgp port. But the new version doesn't accept the > current keys. I could create new keys, but it would be a lot of effort. > Considering the number of people using CTM, I don't think it is worth > the man-hours. > > Comments? Unfortunate, What's stopped more people benefitting from CTM is lack of PR I think, as few non users realise CTM's advantages: ideal for intermitent connectivity (& low bandwidth & reproducibility). Stock up with a load of compressed deltas while the net is connected & free eg on home/work dsl/broadband flat-rate, before hitting the road with expensive mobile tarrifs, or behind company firewall that blocks non http & mail. Anyone fancy using https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi to submit diffs for manuals & web to note that ? I've not used key signing, always been on my ToDo list, never had time, I wonder what proportion of users use those keys. I wouldnt worry too much if your generator host hits 10 EOL: my ctm.berklix.org delta archive is also available & runs 10, & I never seem to find time to upgrade on time. (elsewhere I still have boxes running far older for good reasons, as well as current on others). PS sorry if anyone noticed ftp:// & http:// ctm.berklix.org was off line for a few hours Sunday afternoon TZ=+02:00, an accident during ... an upgrade ;-) (current@ Subject: How to add su to /rescue ? ) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, Computer Consultant, Systems Engineer, BSD Linux Unix, Munich Brexit Referendum stole 3.7 million votes inc. from 700,000 British in EU. UK Goverment lies it's democratic in Article 50 paragraph 3 of letter to EU. http://exitbrexit.uk