From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 01:02:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5872E16B553; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 01:02:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D617644B99; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:52:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 09EC05DAA9; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B46D5C8E3 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 06:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABCC560B4; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 13:24:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3478316A4D0; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 13:24:18 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B8316A4CE; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 13:24:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stewart.chicago.il.us (dpc674425142.direcpc.com [67.44.25.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A73843D69; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 13:24:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from randall@stewart.chicago.il.us) Received: from stewart.chicago.il.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i9NDO3tr031523; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 09:24:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from randall@stewart.chicago.il.us) Message-ID: <417A5B28.9080308@stewart.chicago.il.us> From: Randall Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040429 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mallman@icir.org References: <20041021183238.00E8977A9D0@guns.icir.org> In-Reply-To: <20041021183238.00E8977A9D0@guns.icir.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 11:44:45 +0000 Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Andre Oppermann , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing T/TCP and replacing it with something simpler X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:02:46 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 09:22:48 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:02:46 -0000 Mark Allman wrote: >>Sure. To make you sleep better it will be disabled by default (like >>T/TCP) and possibly even not compliled in by default (#ifdef'd). > > > Part of your argument against T/TCP. :-) > > >>A writeup will follow once I get there. I made this request before I >>start working on it to prevent to waste my time on it if people wanted >>to religiously stick to T/TCP. > > > I think moving on from T/TCP is fine, don't get me wrong. And, I am all > for seeing new schemes that buy us some of the things T/TCP was designed > for. I am just not enthusiastic about dumping things into the kernel > without some review and thought (by more than one person; and, that is > not a knock on you --- if I had a nickel for every half-baked thing I'd > implemented somewhere .... basically, it's good to get different > perspectives). > > Doing this in a systematic way may have benefits beyond FreeBSD, as > well, of course. I would rather have Andre work with me to get any other rinkles out of SCTP that he deems are there... and get the KAME-SCTP stack ported directly in to FreeBSD.. this IMO ... would make more sense... Get something that is pretty well baked (IMO at least) and work to get it "productionized" (even though I don't feel it needs much work in this vein)... R > > allman > > > -- Randall Stewart 803-345-0369 815-342-5222(cell) _______________________________________________ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"