From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 18:43:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2125106564A for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A8E8FC14 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:43:25 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from [10.1.2.35] ([173.200.187.194]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LMO00G8IXC4J930@asmtp029.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:43:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-12_07:2011-06-10, 2011-06-12, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106120113 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20110612202932.bc8e2842.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:43:16 -0700 Message-id: <9EA6D425-7C39-445A-9935-CEE9D71D7DFF@mac.com> References: <01E3114E-02B1-44A2-A6B6-E0AE93A95E9A@earthlink.net> <6B25F4E32F59B195428730A7@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <646739.74431.qm@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0776F7B0-AB3B-4224-8B97-E5058756F581@mac.com> <20110612202932.bc8e2842.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Need Help Installing and Configuring Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:43:25 -0000 On Jun 12, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Polytropon wrote: >> twm doesn't stand for "Trivial Window Manager"-- it stands >> for "Tom's Window Manager" because it was written by Tom >> LaStrange on Sun-3_35 or 3_50 hardware back around X11R1. > > Without any further investigation and research, my > brain seems to remember that is's (also?) called > "Tab Window Manager". Is my brain wrong here? :-) I went by wikipedia to double-check. I'm right about the original name. At some point after twm was included in the X11 core distribution, later developers decided to rename it to "Tab Window Manager" because they'd changed so much code. (If they'd done it with Tom's OK, then I don't have any concern; if they'd just renamed it themselves without discussion with the original author, well, I'd find that a bit tacky.) I remember switching from uwm? to twm around 1990 and finding the later vastly more tolerable. But I also largely switched from X11 to Display Postscript on NEXTSTEP or Sun's OpenWin (X11+Motif+DPS extension, IIRC) around then. Regards, -- -Chuck