From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 16 20:03:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FA5642 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from smtp.digiware.nl (smtp.digiware.nl [31.223.170.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE6392E43 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rack1.digiware.nl (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA86153437; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 22:03:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at digiware.nl Received: from smtp.digiware.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by rack1.digiware.nl (rack1.digiware.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7niQ6o2E2_F4; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 22:03:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.10.9] (vaio [192.168.10.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05197153436; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 22:03:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <520E85B2.8090500@digiware.nl> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 22:04:02 +0200 From: Willem Jan Withagen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Denninger Subject: Re: Fwd: Disk scheduling activity... References: <520B8B1E.7060002@digiware.nl> <520BA249.8030603@digiware.nl> <520BA3EC.1030304@denninger.net> In-Reply-To: <520BA3EC.1030304@denninger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: fs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:03:59 -0000 On 14-8-2013 17:36, Karl Denninger wrote: >> That would then be the Areca controller, bacause I have the feeling >> that it always writes later. >> >> --WjW >> _ > I very much doubt the ARECA is ignoring the cache-flush request. > > I have several of these and can get them into a pathological state with > TERRIBLE performance when ZFS starts doing things that demand cache > flushes - the ARECA will perform the demanded flush which, if you have a > lot of RAM on the board, gets real interesting in terms of performance > impact. I think my wording was what wrong. What I meant is that the Areca controller was "late" in writing because of the battery backupped cache. If it were to ignore cache-flushes that would make it not really a very good controller. Your remarks of getting the controller list in its workload are sort of worrisome.... --WjW