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Date:      Sun, 7 Jun 2015 10:43:03 -0700
From:      Davide Italiano <davide@freebsd.org>
To:        Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
Cc:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>,  "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Erich Dollansky <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com>
Subject:   Re: allow ffs & co. a binary search
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References:  <20150607081315.7c0f09fb@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> <5573EA5E.40806@selasky.org> <20150607195245.62dc191f@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> <20150607135453.GH2499@kib.kiev.ua> <CACYV=-Gdyr7kts_=-u8FWCXNjygL4GxSdnvepz2D34XLv%2BJ-jw@mail.gmail.com> <CACYV=-GXmBxx3aXLPU1BjQvN3JvkhFVKHmLi6y2qUBaDdTdUKA@mail.gmail.com> <A9391ACC-A611-492C-B2F0-DDD701054D7A@gmail.com>

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On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wro=
te:
> On Jun 7, 2015, at 9:44, Davide Italiano <davide@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Davide Italiano <davide@freebsd.org> wro=
te:
>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.co=
m> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Jun 07, 2015 at 07:52:45PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>>>>> What I saw is that all CPUs except ARM uses the software version [of =
ffs].
>>>>
>>>> Without quantifiers, this statement is not true. i386 libc function ff=
s(3)
>>>> uses bsfl instruction to do the job.  Compilers know about ffs(3) and =
friends
>>>> as well, so e.g. gcc 5.1.0 generates the following code for the given
>>>> fragment:
>>>>        return (ffs(x) + 1);
>>>> is translated to
>>>>   0:   0f bc c7                bsf    %edi,%eax
>>>>   3:   ba ff ff ff ff          mov    $0xffffffff,%edx
>>>>   8:   0f 44 c2                cmove  %edx,%eax
>>>>   b:   83 c0 02                add    $0x2,%eax
>>>> (arg in %edi, result in %eax).
>>>>
>>>> I wrote a patch for amd64 libc long time ago to convert ffs/fls etc to=
 use
>>>> of the bitstring instruction, but Bruce Evans argued that this would b=
e
>>>> excessive.  Your patch is excessive for the similar reasons.
>>>>
>>>> My guess is that significantly clever compiler would recognize a patte=
rn
>>>> used by native ffs implementation and automatically use bitstring
>>>> instructions. E.g., this already happens with popcnt and recent
>>>> gcc/clang, I am just lazy to verify ffs.
>>>
>>> Clang trunk to the best of my knowledgde hasn't a way to recognize
>>> ffs() pattern.
>>> http://llvm.org/docs/doxygen/html/LoopIdiomRecognize_8cpp_source.html
>>> I can't comment about gcc as long as I'm not familiar with the implemen=
tation.
>>
>> Also, FWIW, for the fragment provided by Kostik, clang seems to
>> generate more instructions than gcc does,
>> I'll bring this upstream.
>>
>>   0:   0f bc c7                bsf    %edi,%eax
>>   3:   b9 20 00 00 00          mov    $0x20,%ecx
>>   8:   0f 45 c8                cmovne %eax,%ecx
>>   b:   83 c1 02                add    $0x2,%ecx
>>   e:   85 ff                   test   %edi,%edi
>>  10:   b8 01 00 00 00          mov    $0x1,%eax
>>  15:   0f 45 c1                cmovne %ecx,%eax
>
> Hi Davide,
>         Could you please post a) the clang/gcc compiler versions and b) t=
he compilation options used when producing the snippet? clang -O0 for insta=
nce produces a lot of code, whereas -O2 produces considerably less (to the =
point that there have been a lot of complaints at $work about being able to=
 debug clang-compiled programs because things have all been optimized out).
> Thanks!
> -NGie

About the version, as previously mentioned, it's trunk (as per today), r239=
228.
About the flags, it's -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer. I'm able to obtain the
same code Kostik got w/ gcc and the same flag, so I definitely feel
like clang does something different, which result in more
instructions, and I'll investigate further on this.

Thanks,

--=20
Davide

"There are no solved problems; there are only problems that are more
or less solved" -- Henri Poincare



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