From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 11:44:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62872106566C; Sat, 19 May 2012 11:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253688FC0A; Sat, 19 May 2012 11:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4JBher5037846; Sat, 19 May 2012 13:43:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q4JBbgKE028079; Sat, 19 May 2012 13:37:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 13:37:42 +0200 (CEST) From: User Wojtek To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20120519085444.GA2966@tinyCurrent> Message-ID: References: <4FB6B713.7080807@FreeBSD.org> <20120519085444.GA2966@tinyCurrent> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 19 May 2012 13:43:43 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Dimitry Andric Subject: Re: proper newfs options for SSD disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 11:44:11 -0000 what is really bad in SSD is that they are not flash chips interfaced to computer (so flash-designed filesystem could be written) but complex hard drive emulators. But this way they could sell this to windows users. > > https://lwn.net/Articles/428584/ seems like i have it right. i use noatime ALWAYS no matter if it is real disk or emulated in flash memory.