From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 21 10:29:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC63F37B401 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal2.es.net (postoffice2.gridpma.com [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059AD43F93 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:29:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP id MUA74016; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:29:20 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id B05365D09; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:29:19 -0700 (PDT) To: Ben Laurie In-Reply-To: Message from Ben Laurie of "Mon, 21 Apr 2003 18:06:03 BST." <3EA424FB.2030302@algroup.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:29:19 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20030421172919.B05365D09@ptavv.es.net> cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Laptop update... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:29:22 -0000 > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 18:06:03 +0100 > From: Ben Laurie > > Kevin Oberman wrote: > >>But most importantly, perhaps, when I do: > >> > >>portupgrade -Rra > >> > >>it almost never completes, because I get coredumps in cc (and > >>occasionally weirder symptoms, like illegal instructions). I know this > >>is usually attributed to RAM, but I've tried swapping that out - so, > >>what else can I fiddle with that might affect this (and the other > >>problems)? More info available on demand, of course. > > > > > > This is disturbing as I have been seeing similar problems on my T30 for > > a week. Attempting to buildworld bombs after 3 or 4 minutes in various > > places. memtest86 found no memory problems. I have not run any CPU > > diagnostics, but was assuming a hardware problem. (I still am). > > Interesting. I haven't tried memtest86 (where does that come from?), but > PC-DOCTOR, which IBM supply, says all is well. I need to install the latest PC-DOCTOR. I get the update a while ago, but have not installed it. memtest86 is free and available as a bootable ISO from http://www.memtest86.com. > > Unlike my previous experience with this sort of thing, it seems to > > happen about the same whether the system is hot or cold. > > Mine always dies part way through trying to rebuild the X server. Whcih, > I guess, is somewhat regular. > > > Has any A or T series ThinkPad owner built a new CURRENT system over the > > past week? > > Note that mine is RELENG, not CURRENT. I'm happy to migrate if its > thought useful. RELENG or RELEASE? I really can't recommend RELEASE for a laptop because so many fixes have been made since then to CardBus, interrupt routing, and several other things. Current is a bit of a crap-shoot, but is semi-frozen at this time and is generally pretty stable. I don't recall what all problems I was having back at RELEASE, but my laptop (600E at that time) did not run very well. It did run, though. I have always been running the T30 at CURRENT since I updated from STABLE.