From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Dec 17 20:21: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-201-166.mmcable.com [65.31.201.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B8BA37B41F for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 35305 invoked by uid 100); 18 Dec 2001 04:20:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15390.50212.447906.685469@guru.mired.org> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:20:52 -0600 To: Terry Lambert Cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: Early desktop history (Was: Re: UNIX on the Desktop) In-Reply-To: <3C1EC075.C4ECA2FF@mindspring.com> References: <20011216112759.U16958-100000@localhost> <002f01c1866e$1e4d9510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C1DB7EB.9232204A@mindspring.com> <15390.41026.585546.798659@guru.mired.org> <3C1EC075.C4ECA2FF@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA v0.42/Python 2.1.1 (freebsd4) From: "Mike Meyer" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert types: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > I'm pretty sure the first spread sheet was visicalc, and it ran on the > > Apple ][. In any case, spreadsheets, word processors, databases, > > etc. were all available for the Apple ][, the TRS-80 Model I, Flex, > > and various other 8-bit systems that were available at the time. > I definitely ran my copy on the KayPro2, which was a decidedly > CP/M machine. Possibly I should have said "first ran on the Apple ][". We sold a few of them just with that before it was available on CP/M. > The TRS-80 model I was Z80 based, meaning that it > was also a CP/M machine. The TRS-80 Model I ran TRS-DOS by default. It had ROM at location 0, so you couldn't run stock CP/M on a stock Model I. You could get a version of CP/M that ran on it, but any binaries had to be built specifically for that version. You could also get hardware mods for the Model I so it could run stock CP/M. > ...but I digress. 8^p. > > VisiCalc was first released on the Apple ][ in 1979. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message