From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 15 17:59:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA04397 for chat-outgoing; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 17:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04387 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 17:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA09128; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 17:59:40 -0700 (PDT) To: "Joel N. Weber II" cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Plugin? (Re: Complaining at Warner Brothers? ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 15 Jun 1997 20:27:15 EDT." <199706160027.UAA15280@ethanol.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 17:59:40 -0700 Message-ID: <9122.866422780@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Incidentally, don't think that you're going to get plugin functionality > in E-scape. The unavalibility of source for plugins makes me uninterested You can't be serious! :) > in supporting them. However, I'll be happy to merge Shockwave and > RealAudio into the main E-scape sources if you can give me the source > and there are clearly no potential copyright or patent problems. You can't be serious! :) Seriously, are you, umm, serious in these questions? Blowing off plug-ins would be a sad mistake, and not only because we *need* commercial folks to provide working plug-ins for us (a popular 3rd-party browser with such support also perhaps shaming Netscape into being a bit more aggressive with Navigator) but also because they're the only semi-reasonable method for extending the browser along much more radical lines than "helpers" can for you, and there are _end users_ who might be perfectly happy to provide source for their plug-ins if you would only support plug-ins in the first place, eh? Please, support some form of plug-ins. It's not that hard to design a reasonable plug-in API and FreeBSD has perfectly usable dl*() routines. Second, even if I were doped up on a combination of Wild Turkey, LSD, DMT and ether, I couldn't for a moment expect the likes of Shockwave and RealAudio to (giggle) release their sources to some 3rd party just for that (guffaw) warm fuzzy feeling. Maybe if the 3rd party also had a couple of million dollars, sure, but... Sheesh! :) I will assume that you were not serious with your second question. :-) Jordan