From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Mar 29 15: 0:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from carbon.btinternet.com (carbon.btinternet.com [194.73.73.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192F137BAEF for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:59:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [213.1.191.110] (helo=parish.my.domain) by carbon.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12aRRJ-0001v6-00; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:59:53 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01756; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:59:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:59:51 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Neill Robins Cc: Terry Lambert , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Guns and freedom [Was: Re: On "intelligent people" and Message-ID: <20000329235951.A1488@parish> References: <200003291936.MAA23741@usr05.primenet.com> <1661.000329@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <1661.000329@nc.rr.com>; from freebsd@nc.rr.com on Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 03:52:17PM -0500 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 03:52:17PM -0500, Neill Robins wrote: > >> The few times I have been in that situation, here in the States, it > >> was a knife they pulled. I would have preferred they pulled a gun; they > >> would have been easier to disarm with less risk. But, they don't show > >> that in the movies, either. > > TL> Agreed. > > TL> It's also a fact that most handgun echanges take place at close > TL> range, without anyone getting hit for an insanely large number > TL> of rounds fired. That's isn't very exciting to watch in a > TL> theater, either, since you are really waiting for Mel Gibson > TL> to shoot the thugs in a subplot, and then get back onto the > TL> main story line... > > I cannot remember when a movie ever well represented real life. > And I hope they never do, that would be boring. > Whilst it's true that the movies and TV do portray, to outsiders at least, America as a country full of gun-toting loonies most of us can separate Hollywood fantasy from fact. Obviously the Dirty Harry films, for instance, are just pure Hollywood, however I always felt that Hill Street Blues (one of the 3 best TV series to come out of the US, IMHO) was a fairly realistic view of life in that particular environment (big city suburb). Whilst there was a lot of gun-play it did show the police behaving in a sensible, restrained manner in that they always tried to negotiate a peaceful end to an armed siege situation for example, albeit mixed with a bit of "artistic licence" such as Belker wanting to bite everyone he arrested and Hunter wanting to go in guns a-blazing at every opportunity. Was it really realistic? Comments from US citizens would be interesting. BTW, am I correct in thinking that it was filmed around Chicago? > Isn't always fun to see how some white guy can simultaneously take on > couple Ninjas? > > -- > Best regards, > Neill > freebsd@nc.rr.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- Seminars, n.: From "semi" and "arse", hence, any half-assed discussion. ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message